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August 08, 2016, 05:02:29 PM
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Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all.

I guess you've been reading history books a bit quickly. Nelson Mandela has spent 27 years of his life in jail because of his conspiracy to overthrow the state. He was a terrorist. The American settlers who revolted against british rule in the 1770's were seen as terrorists before they created a new country called the US. The french resistants between 1940 and 1944 were labeled as terrorists by the German rulers. The people who created Taiwan were terrorists in China. Nasser was seen as a terrorist by the french and the british...

And those are just a few examples which came to my mind, there are countless others.

Yes, that's what the history books say. But who, really, are the terrorists? For example. When government forces you to pay taxes so that you can't even support your family, then isn't government the terrorist?

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You say that the government, the terrorists? The police, the terrorists? Army terrorists? Drunk neighbor terrorist ?! You are wrong. Terrorists are people who impose their conditions, by any available means. Using their own purposes, even murder. The objectives of the terrorists are always illegal and immoral.

The objectives of terrorists are not always illegal and immoral. Sometimes police actually have good in mind. But traffic stops are often at least partially illegal and immoral when there has been no harm or damage done, and when there is no threat.

For example. You are driving 100MPH on an open highway. Your car is good, and can easily drive 100Mph safely. There is nobody out on the highway except you and the state highway cop. The cop stops you and gives you a ticket for going 100 in a 75 zone. That is terrorism by the cop.

True, this is a broad example. But cops terrorize most of us just by being there. Although some of their terrorism is legal, some of it is also illegal, and most of it is unlawful. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10.

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Not to be confused with terrorism and ordinary greed. When the Constitutional Court does not accept any legal penalty, then he is an ordinary fraud. But if there are rules do not violate the rules in any way. I do not deny that there are real criminals in police uniform, but there are very few police officers, and they are quickly punished.
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August 08, 2016, 06:35:25 PM
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terrorism seems pointless in the short term but humanity will have suffered from it a lot fifty years after. i think that terrorism is the new type of war so it should not be underestimated.
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August 08, 2016, 07:14:57 PM
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terrorism seems pointless in the short term but humanity will have suffered from it a lot fifty years after. i think that terrorism is the new type of war so it should not be underestimated.

Terrorism is certainly capable of hijacking world media.

Seems all it accomplishes then is to make Islam look terrible.
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August 08, 2016, 11:15:25 PM
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Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all.

I guess you've been reading history books a bit quickly. Nelson Mandela has spent 27 years of his life in jail because of his conspiracy to overthrow the state. He was a terrorist. The American settlers who revolted against british rule in the 1770's were seen as terrorists before they created a new country called the US. The french resistants between 1940 and 1944 were labeled as terrorists by the German rulers. The people who created Taiwan were terrorists in China. Nasser was seen as a terrorist by the french and the british...

And those are just a few examples which came to my mind, there are countless others.

Yes, that's what the history books say. But who, really, are the terrorists? For example. When government forces you to pay taxes so that you can't even support your family, then isn't government the terrorist?

Cool
You say that the government, the terrorists? The police, the terrorists? Army terrorists? Drunk neighbor terrorist ?! You are wrong. Terrorists are people who impose their conditions, by any available means. Using their own purposes, even murder. The objectives of the terrorists are always illegal and immoral.

Mahatma Gandhi was declared a terrorist by british parliament in 1932.
In Ireland, I know people who sincerely believe the british are terrorists, willing to impose their conditions by all means, including murder. There are facts to back up those claims.


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August 08, 2016, 11:29:32 PM
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Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all.

I guess you've been reading history books a bit quickly. Nelson Mandela has spent 27 years of his life in jail because of his conspiracy to overthrow the state. He was a terrorist. The American settlers who revolted against british rule in the 1770's were seen as terrorists before they created a new country called the US. The french resistants between 1940 and 1944 were labeled as terrorists by the German rulers. The people who created Taiwan were terrorists in China. Nasser was seen as a terrorist by the french and the british...

And those are just a few examples which came to my mind, there are countless others.

Yes, that's what the history books say. But who, really, are the terrorists? For example. When government forces you to pay taxes so that you can't even support your family, then isn't government the terrorist?

Cool
You say that the government, the terrorists? The police, the terrorists? Army terrorists? Drunk neighbor terrorist ?! You are wrong. Terrorists are people who impose their conditions, by any available means. Using their own purposes, even murder. The objectives of the terrorists are always illegal and immoral.

Mahatma Gandhi was declared a terrorist by british parliament in 1932.
In Ireland, I know people who sincerely believe the british are terrorists, willing to impose their conditions by all means, including murder. There are facts to back up those claims.


Knowledge, and understanding is not the product of broadening the definition of a word so that any and everything is defined within it's range.

In fact that's the very reverse of understanding.
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August 09, 2016, 04:14:35 PM
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Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all.

I guess you've been reading history books a bit quickly. Nelson Mandela has spent 27 years of his life in jail because of his conspiracy to overthrow the state. He was a terrorist. The American settlers who revolted against british rule in the 1770's were seen as terrorists before they created a new country called the US. The french resistants between 1940 and 1944 were labeled as terrorists by the German rulers. The people who created Taiwan were terrorists in China. Nasser was seen as a terrorist by the french and the british...

And those are just a few examples which came to my mind, there are countless others.

Yes, that's what the history books say. But who, really, are the terrorists? For example. When government forces you to pay taxes so that you can't even support your family, then isn't government the terrorist?

Cool
You say that the government, the terrorists? The police, the terrorists? Army terrorists? Drunk neighbor terrorist ?! You are wrong. Terrorists are people who impose their conditions, by any available means. Using their own purposes, even murder. The objectives of the terrorists are always illegal and immoral.

Mahatma Gandhi was declared a terrorist by british parliament in 1932.
In Ireland, I know people who sincerely believe the british are terrorists, willing to impose their conditions by all means, including murder. There are facts to back up those claims.


Knowledge, and understanding is not the product of broadening the definition of a word so that any and everything is defined within it's range.

In fact that's the very reverse of understanding.

Yet it isn't the terrorism that is pointless. It is everything.

Suppose you are wise and understanding, and of good knowledge. You amass art and wealth for yourself. You get yourself a harem of some of the most beautiful, gracious women in the world. You have loads of children by these women. And when you die, you leave great wealth to all of them.

But what good is it to you? It is all pointless. When a person dies, it is all gone.

Why do I even spend time on Bitcointalk? The only thing you ever get in life is the pleasure of the moment. The second thing is satisfaction when you do a job well. But none of it has any meaning, because it is all gone when you die.

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August 13, 2016, 01:45:38 AM
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Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all.

I guess you've been reading history books a bit quickly. Nelson Mandela has spent 27 years of his life in jail because of his conspiracy to overthrow the state. He was a terrorist. The American settlers who revolted against british rule in the 1770's were seen as terrorists before they created a new country called the US. The french resistants between 1940 and 1944 were labeled as terrorists by the German rulers. The people who created Taiwan were terrorists in China. Nasser was seen as a terrorist by the french and the british...

And those are just a few examples which came to my mind, there are countless others.

By terrorists and terrorism I mean plain terrorism of blowing the crap out of innocent civilians.
Not exactly those "the opposite force calls terrorists", usually due to convenience as those opposing forces are hard to distinguish from those they call terrorists.
The founding fathers weren't blowing up US or UK citizens, if they started their campaign by bombing Boston citizens there wouldn't be any independent USA as public support would be 0 afterwards. So they were striking military facilities, same for the French resistance or Taiwan... Mandela not quite, that was a case when propaganda and time in the "shade" made people forget and turn things around.

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August 13, 2016, 04:16:27 AM
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no one . no one wins in it.
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August 14, 2016, 01:02:53 PM
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Not only is terrorism pointless, but think of how a terrorist bomb feels...

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August 14, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
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Not only is terrorism pointless, but think of how a terrorist bomb feels...

The End of Dark Star

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August 30, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
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Terrorism is just one of a cancer in this planet. Terrorist group wants only powers that defines there hatred against government. They only want to destroy government and rule the world of full of sin, hatred and crime. There ideology is pointless. That is why we need to destroy them as fast as we can.
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August 31, 2016, 05:57:56 PM
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Terrorism is just one of a cancer in this planet. Terrorist group wants only powers that defines there hatred against government. They only want to destroy government and rule the world of full of sin, hatred and crime. There ideology is pointless. That is why we need to destroy them as fast as we can.

A terrorist for someone may be a freedom fighter for someone else. For example, the Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC) is considered as a terrorist organization by the United States and the other Western nations. However, leftist nations such as Ecuador considers them as freedom fighters. Same with other organizations such as the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen of Kashmir and the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) of Balochistan.
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August 31, 2016, 09:37:15 PM
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Terrorism is just one of a cancer in this planet. Terrorist group wants only powers that defines there hatred against government. They only want to destroy government and rule the world of full of sin, hatred and crime. There ideology is pointless. That is why we need to destroy them as fast as we can.

A terrorist for someone may be a freedom fighter for someone else. For example, the Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC) is considered as a terrorist organization by the United States and the other Western nations. However, leftist nations such as Ecuador considers them as freedom fighters. Same with other organizations such as the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen of Kashmir and the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) of Balochistan.

Thanks for pointing out that what we call terrorism are heroes for their countries.
You can't expect a peaceful reaction when being at war with a country.

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September 07, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
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Guerrilla fighters or resistance, despite being called terrorists by its opposing faction are a different subject. Unless when they resource terrorism itself, such as ETA or IRA. And here comes the point; those two waged nothing out of terrorism other than be wiped out.

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