stock market list of bitcoin and altcoin that can be bought using stockbrokers

[someone111]

Let's make a list of stocks, ETNs, ETFs, certificates and whatnot that can be bought using regular stockbrokers.

http://grayscale.co/bitcoin-investment-trust/ US09173T1088

http://www.quotenet.com/stock-price/Bitcoin_Group_2 DE000A1TNV91

Do you know any others?

Added:
I am not just interested in buying bitcoin on stock markets but also related companies. Let's say bitcoin, altcoin exchanges. Payment processors using coins. Any company strongly involved with blockchain technology is worth being checked out as they might have huge gains in future.

[raymond541]

Nice news for bitcoin.we want to see every stock market listed bitcoin.this will be great for bitcoin.I am finding others stock who listed bitcoin if I got I will post here.thanks for the post.

[franky1]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

so when you log in.. always check to see on the 'withdrawal' options if you can actually withdraw bitcoin, and not just native currency, because most stock exchanges dont.
(their stock exchanges not currency exchanges)

meaning they are not secretly buying bitcoin on your behalf to hand to you later, meaning they are not linked to real bitcoin exchanges to affect bitcoins real market value.

in short
a pump /dump on a stock market doesnt affect real bitcoin exchanges in the majority of cases
if you cannot withdraw bitcoin from a stockmarket. then you are just playing with their pebbles in their sandpit that "meant" to represent bitcoin.
in laymens.. at best you are buying loosely termed shares in a company supposedly holding X bitcoin.

so dont get excited thinking your helping bitcoin. instead just think of it as a different investment tool to grow your fiat

[Kakmakr]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

so when you log in.. always check to see on the 'withdrawal' options if you can actually withdraw bitcoin, and not just native currency, because most stock exchanges dont.
(their stock exchanges not currency exchanges)

meaning they are not secretly buying bitcoin on your behalf to hand to you later, meaning they are not linked to real bitcoin exchanges to affect bitcoins real market value.

in short
a pump /dump on a stock market doesnt affect real bitcoin exchanges in the majority of cases
if you cannot withdraw bitcoin from a stockmarket. then you are just playing with their pebbles in their sandpit that "meant" to represent bitcoin.
in laymens.. at best you are buying loosely termed shares in a company supposedly holding X bitcoin.

so dont get excited thinking your helping bitcoin. instead just think of it as a different investment tool to grow your fiat

Why did they introduce this into the markets? Just because they can create pebbles out of thin air, or because the legislative framework has not been formulated to cover Bitcoin as a commodity for direct trading? Is this not what the  Winklevoss twins are trying to solve?  ^hmmmm^

[Senor.Bla]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

so when you log in.. always check to see on the 'withdrawal' options if you can actually withdraw bitcoin, and not just native currency, because most stock exchanges dont.
(their stock exchanges not currency exchanges)

meaning they are not secretly buying bitcoin on your behalf to hand to you later, meaning they are not linked to real bitcoin exchanges to affect bitcoins real market value.

in short
a pump /dump on a stock market doesnt affect real bitcoin exchanges in the majority of cases
if you cannot withdraw bitcoin from a stockmarket. then you are just playing with their pebbles in their sandpit that "meant" to represent bitcoin.
in laymens.. at best you are buying loosely termed shares in a company supposedly holding X bitcoin.

so dont get excited thinking your helping bitcoin. instead just think of it as a different investment tool to grow your fiat

Why did they introduce this into the markets? Just because they can create pebbles out of thin air, or because the legislative framework has not been formulated to cover Bitcoin as a commodity for direct trading? Is this not what the  Winklevoss twins are trying to solve?  ^hmmmm^

the answer to your question why is very simple. they want to make a profit. many people are investing in stock and so on and when they hear about bitcoin they check with their broker if they can buy bitcoin. then they find out that it is not that easy to buy bitcoin and so they do not buy bitcoin.
but like franky1 said: you are not buying bitcoin. all the nice features of bitcoin, you are getting none of that.

[someone111]

I am not just interested in buying bitcoin on stock markets but also related companies. Let's say bitcoin, altcoin exchanges. Payment processors using coins. Any company strongly involved with blockchain technology is worth being checked out as they might have huge gains in future.

[eternalgloom]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

so when you log in.. always check to see on the 'withdrawal' options if you can actually withdraw bitcoin, and not just native currency, because most stock exchanges dont.
(their stock exchanges not currency exchanges)

meaning they are not secretly buying bitcoin on your behalf to hand to you later, meaning they are not linked to real bitcoin exchanges to affect bitcoins real market value.

in short
a pump /dump on a stock market doesnt affect real bitcoin exchanges in the majority of cases
if you cannot withdraw bitcoin from a stockmarket. then you are just playing with their pebbles in their sandpit that "meant" to represent bitcoin.
in laymens.. at best you are buying loosely termed shares in a company supposedly holding X bitcoin.

so dont get excited thinking your helping bitcoin. instead just think of it as a different investment tool to grow your fiat

So if I'm getting this right, they're not even investing into buying Bitcoin themselves?
You're basically buying air...

[Denker]

I am not just interested in buying bitcoin on stock markets but also related companies. Let's say bitcoin, altcoin exchanges. Payment processors using coins. Any company strongly involved with blockchain technology is worth being checked out as they might have huge gains in future.

Be careful with that.
Remember the dotcom hype of the late ninetees and how that bubble popped in 2000?
Many companies we know now possibly will not exist anymore in a few years and get replaced by others.
Therefore I would only invest in a few coins. For instance each company who uses the Bitcoin Blockchain will probably make Bitcoin worth more.So Bitcoin can be seen as a kind of share.
Let the VCs take the big risks and burn most of their cash.However if you have that much money you can put at high risk and afford to lose, no one will stop you.

[Digitalbitcoin]

My honest suggestion is why to go for broker while already exchanges are available in market.

Already cryptocurrencies are considered as decentralized asset so if we are thinking for broker then it becomes centralized.

[yayayo]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

I can only underline that. Buying Bitcoin certificates exposes you to third party risk not existent when owning real Bitcoin. It's even worse than holding shares of a precious metal ETF, because ETN's offer less rights and the whole process is less transparent. Even if they actually hold as much Bitcoin as they claim, chances are that you can't demand delivery of the real thing. In addition to this added risk you are charged direct or indirect fees for them to "manage" their Bitcoin holdings.

It's basically a total perversion of the original idea behind Bitcoin: Gaining financial freedom independent of third parties. If you hold Bitcoin directly, there is no counterparty risk other than the technology behind it. Only dronish and dumb people are voluntarily adding risk and even pay for it.

In my opinion all these paper promises are only an intermediary phenomenon for Bitcoin. Holding Bitcoin directly is even easier than holding physical precious metals. Once the first paper notes fail to fulfill their promises, people will run for the exit door.

ya.ya.yo!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

just a warning to those new to investing

you are not actually buying real bitcoin from most of these stock exchanges.
you are just playing around with fiat and using their market order engine to buy 'pretend bitcoin'

so when you log in.. always check to see on the 'withdrawal' options if you can actually withdraw bitcoin, and not just native currency, because most stock exchanges dont.
(their stock exchanges not currency exchanges)

meaning they are not secretly buying bitcoin on your behalf to hand to you later, meaning they are not linked to real bitcoin exchanges to affect bitcoins real market value.

in short
a pump /dump on a stock market doesnt affect real bitcoin exchanges in the majority of cases
if you cannot withdraw bitcoin from a stockmarket. then you are just playing with their pebbles in their sandpit that "meant" to represent bitcoin.
in laymens.. at best you are buying loosely termed shares in a company supposedly holding X bitcoin.

so dont get excited thinking your helping bitcoin. instead just think of it as a different investment tool to grow your fiat

I would also add that when you buy bitcoin, it's with fiat and when you spend it, the merchant is most likely converting it back to fiat.  There's no reason to spend bitcoin and no real reason to buy these etfs and whatnot.   Bitcoin is for saving.  I'm interested in seeing what gets listed here, though, as I'm definitely a fan of the stock market.

[Senor.Bla]

My honest suggestion is why to go for broker while already exchanges are available in market.

Already cryptocurrencies are considered as decentralized asset so if we are thinking for broker then it becomes centralized.

that is simple. if you already have a broker and now want to invest in bitcoin, then your first step is to go to your broker.
so i can ask you:
why go for an exchange while already a broker is available? 

[franky1]

I would also add that when you buy bitcoin, it's with fiat and when you spend it, the merchant is most likely converting it back to fiat.  There's no reason to spend bitcoin

I would also add that when you withdraw a banknote from an ATM, its not bank account balance, its paper.. when you spend it the merchant most likely converts it back to bank account balance. there's no reason to spend banknotes

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would also add that when you buy bitcoin, it's with fiat and when you spend it, the merchant is most likely converting it back to fiat.  There's no reason to spend bitcoin

I would also add that when you withdraw a banknote from an ATM, its not bank account balance, its paper.. when you spend it the merchant most likely converts it back to bank account balance. there's no reason to spend banknotes

Mmm, not quite the same thing.  Spending bitcoin is like going out of your way to buy silver in order to spend it in Utah.  The account balance/paper money argument is weak IMO.  They're the same thing, but fiat and bitcoin are two different birds.  Things are not priced in bitcoin.  We, most of us, are not paid in bitcoin.  Thus to use what we get paid in--fiat--to purchase bitcoin in order to spend it, is insanity to me.  I see absolutely no reason to do that, and I have yet to be persuaded by any argument for this.  I love bitcoin, but not as a currency.  Until we actually need a reason to spend it, it's going to languish as a currency.  Fiat needs to collapse, governments need to collapse.  Just ain't happening yet.

Edit:  I also wanted to say that if any of these bitcoin exchanges were legitimate enough to go public, I'd probably think about investing FIAT in them, sort of like E-Trade or something.  I have a feeling none of them will.  I might invest in Circle or Coinbase if they went public (they're not, right?).

[franky1]

I would also add that when you buy bitcoin, it's with fiat and when you spend it, the merchant is most likely converting it back to fiat.  There's no reason to spend bitcoin

I would also add that when you withdraw a banknote from an ATM, its not bank account balance, its paper.. when you spend it the merchant most likely converts it back to bank account balance. there's no reason to spend banknotes

Mmm, not quite the same thing.  Spending bitcoin is like going out of your way to buy silver in order to spend it in Utah.  The account balance/paper money argument is weak IMO.  They're the same thing, but fiat and bitcoin are two different birds.  Things are not priced in bitcoin.  We, most of us, are not paid in bitcoin.  Thus to use what we get paid in--fiat--to purchase bitcoin in order to spend it, is insanity to me.  I see absolutely no reason to do that, and I have yet to be persuaded by any argument for this.  I love bitcoin, but not as a currency.  Until we actually need a reason to spend it, it's going to languish as a currency.  Fiat needs to collapse, governments need to collapse.  Just ain't happening yet.

Edit:  I also wanted to say that if any of these bitcoin exchanges were legitimate enough to go public, I'd probably think about investing FIAT in them, sort of like E-Trade or something.  I have a feeling none of them will.  I might invest in Circle or Coinbase if they went public (they're not, right?).

ok then lets say your american.. so your saying Mpesa is useless because nothing in america is priced in mpesa and there is no reason anyone should spend mpesa purely because its useless in on part of the world where you are.

im guessing that the Fijian dollar is useless because its only used by 1 million people. and not recognised internationally/mainstream

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would also add that when you buy bitcoin, it's with fiat and when you spend it, the merchant is most likely converting it back to fiat.  There's no reason to spend bitcoin

I would also add that when you withdraw a banknote from an ATM, its not bank account balance, its paper.. when you spend it the merchant most likely converts it back to bank account balance. there's no reason to spend banknotes

Mmm, not quite the same thing.  Spending bitcoin is like going out of your way to buy silver in order to spend it in Utah.  The account balance/paper money argument is weak IMO.  They're the same thing, but fiat and bitcoin are two different birds.  Things are not priced in bitcoin.  We, most of us, are not paid in bitcoin.  Thus to use what we get paid in--fiat--to purchase bitcoin in order to spend it, is insanity to me.  I see absolutely no reason to do that, and I have yet to be persuaded by any argument for this.  I love bitcoin, but not as a currency.  Until we actually need a reason to spend it, it's going to languish as a currency.  Fiat needs to collapse, governments need to collapse.  Just ain't happening yet.

Edit:  I also wanted to say that if any of these bitcoin exchanges were legitimate enough to go public, I'd probably think about investing FIAT in them, sort of like E-Trade or something.  I have a feeling none of them will.  I might invest in Circle or Coinbase if they went public (they're not, right?).

ok then lets say your american.. so your saying Mpesa is useless because nothing in america is priced in mpesa and there is no reason anyone should spend mpesa purely because its useless in on part of the world where you are.

im guessing that the Fijian dollar is useless because its only used by 1 million people. and not recognised internationally/mainstream

Yes.  Those things are useless for me. I would not go out of my way to convert to the Fifi dollar or any other in order to spend it.  I am an entirely self-centered person with a dead heart and no feelings.