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September 26, 2017, 03:28:24 PM
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it looks good and  first time to see it . so this services for signature campaigns managers only , How can regulars members use it for ?
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September 26, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
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it looks good and  first time to see it . so this services for signature campaigns managers only , How can regulars members use it for ?
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The thread and the images are self-explanatory. It's a tool made to facilitate the life of the campaign managers from the forum. The regular member can apply for the campaign in the campaign website, and the manager will approve/reject your application, while the system automatically counts your number of posts if you are in.

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September 26, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
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Now isn't it nice how you sorted out your own problem - and now have a solution that benefits an important part of this forum? I've seen a couple of sites and/or services now offering automated campaign management but this is the first time I've seen evidence of it actually existing. I am certain a lot of managers wouldn't mind paying a small fee if it cut down their time on manual checking.

I'm not sure I would advocate for campaign participants to use this service as well... applicants who fill in incomplete forms or don't follow rules should just be excluded by "natural selection". On the other hand, it can be helpful to avoid not meeting requirements (unintentionally).

Could even extend the service with more sophistication to normal forum users to screen post history and inform of possible violation (wrong section posting, wrong format used, etc.).

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September 26, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
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Now isn't it nice how you sorted out your own problem - and now have a solution that benefits an important part of this forum? I've seen a couple of sites and/or services now offering automated campaign management but this is the first time I've seen evidence of it actually existing. I am certain a lot of managers wouldn't mind paying a small fee if it cut down their time on manual checking.

I'm not sure I would advocate for campaign participants to use this service as well... applicants who fill in incomplete forms or don't follow rules should just be excluded by "natural selection". On the other hand, it can be helpful to avoid not meeting requirements (unintentionally).

Could even extend the service with more sophistication to normal forum users to screen post history and inform of possible violation (wrong section posting, wrong format used, etc.).

The app will remain free for other signature campaign managers to use even though we could charge a fee, we don't be.

The service is already extended and will screen wrong sections and post length Smiley.

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September 27, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2017, 01:37:25 PM by LoyceV
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I'd like to respond to your previous thread, but it's closed. TryNinja wrote this:
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You could do it like BitMixer in the old times. The whole post count and payments proccess were done by a bot, and the only manual work was done by Lauda. She was only responsible for keeping spammers and shitposters out of the campaign by checking their posts regularly and banning them if they break any rules. If you were doing fine, the bot would pay you normally.
I myself would be interested in this kind of job, since I have plenty time and dedication for this forum. The only issues are: I have never managed any campaign before, - even that I know the whole process behind the job - and I wear your competitor signature (if you think this could be a issue).
I can't emphasize enough how true this is! I too would like to be a signature campaign manager, and I too wear a competing signature.

Allow me to advertise myself: have a look at my Hero Campaign Manager LoyceV looking for new campaign to manage - Portfolio please. If interested, we can discuss rates in PM.
I also have some experience scraping the forum.

The bot will even remove Quoted text from post count length calculations when checking if it meets minimum requirements.
How about nested quotes, and code-tags? Or other BB-tags, are they counted as characters? If I include those, the next word counts 56 characters: Hello.

Building on what TryNinja posted already, combined with your scraper, I would suggest the following:
1. Manually approve all applicants. Make use of the existing SMAS blacklists, and check everybody's post history before they join. If you don't allow shitposters to join in the first place, you only have to check their posts once, and you don't have to kick them out a week later. From what I've seen, allowing 10-20% of applicants gets you a pretty decent post quality.
2. A scraper won't reduce the manager's work by 90%, counting posts is a fraction of the work required to check posts. What you could do, is only manually check 20% of the posts. That saves a lot of work. Also keep in mind that reading the post itself isn't enough, in order to check whether or not a post is constructive, it's necessary to read other posts from other users in the same thread too. And that's what makes it so important to be very selective before accepting people, filtering them out instantly saves a lot of work later on.
3. A 4-word post can be totally ontopic and very helpful. If you require a 4-word post to be extended into 100 characters, the quality of the post is lost. A typical shitposter has a post history filled with all posts exactly 4 lines long, no line breaks, no exceptions. That's not quality, but it looks like they put in an effort.
4. Pay a reward for reporting spam in your campaign! The spammer gets nothing, the snitch informant gets 50%. (continued reading shows cpfreeplz already suggested this)

Yes I understand that some manual parts will remain but it would mean that campaign managers won't be able to justify charging $5-10k for managing a campaign. Especially since we're going to open this service up for free.
I guess the person charging $10k (per month?) is already loaded in work and doesn't want more. I'll charge less Tongue

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September 27, 2017, 07:03:24 PM
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I'd like to respond to your previous thread, but it's closed. TryNinja wrote this:
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You could do it like BitMixer in the old times. The whole post count and payments proccess were done by a bot, and the only manual work was done by Lauda. She was only responsible for keeping spammers and shitposters out of the campaign by checking their posts regularly and banning them if they break any rules. If you were doing fine, the bot would pay you normally.
I myself would be interested in this kind of job, since I have plenty time and dedication for this forum. The only issues are: I have never managed any campaign before, - even that I know the whole process behind the job - and I wear your competitor signature (if you think this could be a issue).
The bot will even remove Quoted text from post count length calculations when checking if it meets minimum requirements.
How about nested quotes, and code-tags? Or other BB-tags, are they counted as characters? If I include those, the next word counts 56 characters: Hello.

All gone Smiley. https://sig.privcoin.io/test/search/?userid=1146453

Click valid posts. This entire quote chain is gone except my reply.

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September 27, 2017, 07:17:07 PM
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Try this: copy this text, and post it as your own message. See what your scraper makes out of it.

It should look like this:
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Code:
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Test3
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Test5
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And your scraper should record this:
Test1
Test2
Test3
Test4
Test5
Test6
Test7 {maybe including www.google.com}

The next step would be to test images.

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September 27, 2017, 07:20:06 PM
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September 27, 2017, 07:23:21 PM
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Try this: copy this text, and post it as your own message. See what your scraper makes out of it.

Almost got it, https://sig.privcoin.io/test/search/?userid=1146453 missed the code header tags but everything else worked fine. Adjusted it to account for the code header tag. Round 2 will get it.

Edit: Yup. Works as expected now. The first test is under Invalid Posts, the 2nd is under Valid Posts because I added a little note pushing it over 75 chars.

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September 28, 2017, 05:49:36 AM
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Edit: Yup. Works as expected now. The first test is under Invalid Posts, the 2nd is under Valid Posts because I added a little note pushing it over 75 chars.
Nice fix Smiley I moved my further suggestions to [FREE] ★★★★ Signature Campaign Management Bot BETA LAUNCH ★★★★.

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