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August 20, 2017, 07:03:34 PM
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August 20, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
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This should be moved to the Service Discussion/Services section.

That, for me, seemed to be a crowdsale trading and believe me, it will not pan out well. Most of these so called "trading groups" often turned out to be a scam no matter how open and public the owners are. Also, you need to have some trust credibility first before opening such a service.
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August 20, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
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Hello,
    We are working on a service where people can give Bitcoins or fiat (very small amount probably equivalent of $1-$5), subscribe and we publicly invest it in Bitcoin. Once bitcoin goes up, we send the gains to all of our subscribers. Please share your thoughts and what you think we can improve. Thanks in advance.

1. What happens if bitcoin goes down?
2. How can you prove that your service is not a Ponzi scheme?
3. Why would people give you bitcoins if you are investing in bitcoins?


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August 20, 2017, 09:34:08 PM
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Hi, first of all, could you post your website here. By your description, it looks like ponzi scheme. People who investing in your site need to know what you are doing with their money, so you need maximum publicity. And you need to guarantee safety of investors funds.

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August 20, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
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If people can give Bitcoin or Fiat so it is something like a donation box in short so what is your services all about and what is the main purpose of it why it is donate-able at all? Sorry for me for being skeptical about this about this but you posting as a newbie is seems so fishy unless you offer a good service and you detailed about the information here but you didn't so please elaborate about your idea. Don't leave your thread like a guessing game mate, please be informative in what you can offer in us. Thanks.



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August 20, 2017, 10:40:21 PM
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This just looks like a Hyip or any of those sites that you must deposit bitcoin and then you get a daily return, only that you are giving the return once bitcoin goes up
I think this is not the section to post it. Its a nice idea, but a lot of people have already made it, and they all were scam.
By the way, i dont understand how the subscription works on your idea.


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August 20, 2017, 11:01:36 PM
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Hello,
    We are working on a service where people can give Bitcoins or fiat (very small amount probably equivalent of $1-$5), subscribe and we publicly invest it in Bitcoin. Once bitcoin goes up, we send the gains to all of our subscribers. Please share your thoughts and what you think we can improve. Thanks in advance.
Very good effort, but how do you give your customers all the reasons if a bitcoin price falls and you lose your money?

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August 21, 2017, 05:09:38 AM
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Very tough dude. This kind of crowd sale trading won’t be working well as people won’t be investing money in your services due to the fact that you are just claiming that you will trade for us and will payback once you get the profit. What about your own profit? How are you going to take the share of your profits. We will need to know the terms also, a security may be? What if anything goes other way around, will you pay back us the money which we invested? Thanks, let us know.


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August 21, 2017, 06:24:52 AM
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The idea s very nice, to give people a taste of BTC without risking a lot. The problem is your own legitimacy and reputation. How are you going to convince people you wont run away with money.

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August 21, 2017, 05:29:21 PM
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IMO, getting people to trust your service is the most important point.
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August 21, 2017, 05:47:13 PM
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- It's should be transparent you must provide your address to public, so people know where they money.
- The wallet must be have a high security, hardware wallet is necessary I think.
- Build your trust first.
- How you warn investors/contributors if the price go down? Are you expert in trading?
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So basically you want to create an investment pool with all those dust amount from your users which I think is not a good idea at first place also why people will trust you with their money.

You should drop this idea which basically sounds like another ponzi scheme.

 
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August 21, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
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Ok, the idea is basically nice. Would like to know which market you'll be targeting to gain those investors. It's important because of You're regretting tech related people and stock market people then you may get some success soon, others are difficult to grab.

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August 21, 2017, 06:40:53 PM
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I just thinking if what business or service you can give to us to donate $1 to $5 like other said it looks like a ponzi scheme..
better to share with us if what type of the service we can get and why we need to give $1 to $5.
People are just looking for a service which is useful and you should gain the trust first by high trusted members here before you can start asking for payments or donation.. if its proven that you service is trusted then you can gain lots of customers.



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August 25, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
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This is a very dangerous time. For anyone who wants to start any service with Bitcoins for cryptocurrency. The fact is that the laws and regulations are lax enough that a poorly-run business or service, or an outright scam, has just enough leeway to get in there cause trouble and steal money from people.
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August 25, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
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This is a very dangerous time. For anyone who wants to start any service with Bitcoins for cryptocurrency. The fact is that the laws and regulations are lax enough that a poorly-run business or service, or an outright scam, has just enough leeway to get in there cause trouble and steal money from people.

However, ever since the end of 2015 and the beginning of 2016 with a very pivotal Florida legal case, there is definitely an Avenue that some clients can take in some cases to recover lost funds whether the company lost in purposely or through poor management. So you find yourself in a business environment that welcomes brand new services with very little regulation until it comes to the Fiat but you are also right on the border of a time period when a service or business that fails can find itself legally and monetarily held accountable.

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August 25, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
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If you can't provide any kind of guarantee that users will get paid no matter if the price of the bitcoin falls, people might be interested. But you must gain trust first.
If you can't provide any kind of guarantee, then your service will sound more like a ponzi scheme.

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August 26, 2017, 04:32:28 AM
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Your account is just a newbie account and people dont trust them easily as most of the newbie accounts turn out to be a scam. May be you are well experienced in trading but then how will people know how much profit you are willing to give them. You say that you ll accept $1 - $5 which is a small amount so it obviously would generate small amount of profits. Do you think people will keep their money on stake for such a minimum amount. You should plan well my friend. Gain some trust and positive feedback from people, build you website elegantly, provide some worthy factors that will attract the users to invest in your scheme. Only then your service will be leading towards success.

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August 26, 2017, 04:35:42 AM
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I don't get it !
why would people give you bitcoin/fiat so you can invest them in bitcoin. why they don't just do it themselves ?

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August 28, 2017, 05:01:51 PM
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This is a very dangerous time. For anyone who wants to start any service with Bitcoins for cryptocurrency. The fact is that the laws and regulations are lax enough that a poorly-run business or service, or an outright scam, has just enough leeway to get in there cause trouble and steal money from people.

However, ever since the end of 2015 and the beginning of 2016 with a very pivotal Florida legal case, there is definitely an Avenue that some clients can take in some cases to recover lost funds whether the company lost in purposely or through poor management. So you find yourself in a business environment that welcomes brand new services with very little regulation until it comes to the Fiat but you are also right on the border of a time period when a service or business that fails can find itself legally and monetarily held accountable.

That is not to say that you are not going to do well, it is just a say to be careful and be responsible when it comes to other people's finances. Whether we start the service or invest in a bitcoin service, we should protect people and our money and never even think of scamming anyone.
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