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April 06, 2013, 08:14:35 AM
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zr2u9yoPirRdsOz0yubMbxqrcqc477R_5EQZUDvmRR4/edit?usp=sharing

There are good reasons to think that this patent may make its owner filthy rich along with future bitcoin and other virtual currencies legal laws.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 08:28:04 AM
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So you want $130,000 for a patent of an idea?

Can you even patent an idea?

What exactly are you selling other than text on a patent?

Whats to stop me from patenting a product that does this exact thing?

Pretty sure every time I read about a lawsuit its because company A is using company B's technology, there isn't technology here, only an idea?
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April 06, 2013, 08:42:00 AM
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Nope, ideas cannot be patented in the UK. This is a design patent.
It can claim rights on any technology implementing this design concept.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
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So essentially you patented an idea for a type of bitcoin card?
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April 06, 2013, 09:02:01 AM
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nope, as I described it, bitcoin addresses or those of other virtual currencies, are to be considered virtual cards as they are the means of doing money transactions, just as supposed and described in anticipation for the coming of such thing as bitcoin and virtual currencies that make money payments we are used to do with physical cards in a virtual way, and I was very clear in the document that they could be virtual, and so making bitcoin addreses, for instance, also what I called therein, along the the document, 'money cards'.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
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Nope, ideas cannot be patented in the UK. This is a design patent.
It can claim rights on any technology implementing this design concept.

Ok so what comes with the patent other than the idea?

You realize this idea can be tweeked with 1 single thing and its now worth the price of how much it cost to patent.

Such as your patent states use of a plastic card, what if I had a cardboard laminated card... now I have a legit patent of my own.


I remember reading on a patent about gun powder, thermite, C4 or some sort of explosive.. I cant recall off the top of my head.. but he was making tons of cash until someone else patented the same exact product, but used 1 chemical difference and almost positive it was water. Now the original maker makes nothing, the new maker makes it all.
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April 06, 2013, 09:26:45 AM
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nope, as I described it, bitcoin addresses or those of other virtual currencies, are to be considered virtual cards as they are the means of doing money transactions, just as supposed and described in anticipation for the coming of such thing as bitcoin and virtual currencies that make money payments we are used to do with physical cards in a virtual way, and I was very clear in the document that they could be virtual, and so making bitcoin addreses, for instance, also what I called therein, along the the document, 'money cards'.


Well I'm in America, and here you cant patent an idea, without a script, a card with no name, anything... you have nothing.

I cant just pay money and patent...


"Any future project that will have 4D holographic projections"

And make royalties.

$130,000 for an idea... no
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April 06, 2013, 09:31:56 AM
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Ok so what comes with the patent other than the idea?

Such as your patent states use of a plastic card, what if I had a cardboard laminated card... now I have a legit patent of my own.


It describes the design concept for an implementation that would not be obvious and is inventive.
That is all that is required to claim rights over technology implementing it.

Plastic is mentioned obviously as an usual example of such physical cards. It is clear it is just helping convey what kind physical cards I could be talking about, but clearly the emphasis is thinking of them as an abstraction, either physical or virtual.  

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 09:44:18 AM
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Ok so what comes with the patent other than the idea?

Such as your patent states use of a plastic card, what if I had a cardboard laminated card... now I have a legit patent of my own.


It describes the design concept for an implementation that would not be obvious and is inventive.
That is all that is required to claim rights over technology implementing it.

Plastic is mentioned obviously as an usual example of such physical cards. It is clear it is just helping convey what kind physical cards I could be talking about, but clearly the emphasis is thinking of them as an abstraction, either physical or virtual.  

Alfred Nobel patented ballistite in 1887 whilst he was living in Paris. His formulation was composed of 10% camphor and equal parts of nitroglycerine and collodion.[4] The camphor reacted with any acidic products of the chemical breakdown of the two explosives. This both stabilized the explosive against further decomposition and prevented spontaneous explosions. However, camphor tends to evaporate over time, leaving a potentially unstable mixture.[5]

Nobel's patent specified that the nitrocellulose should be "of the well-known soluble kind". He offered to sell the rights to the new explosive to the French government, but they declined, largely because they had just adopted Poudre B. He subsequently licensed the rights to the Italian government, who entered into a contract, on 1 August 1889, to obtain 300,000 kilogram of ballistite; and Nobel opened a factory at Avigliana, Turin.[6]

The Italian Army swiftly replaced their M1870 and M1870/87 rifles, which used black powder cartridges, to a new model, the M1890 Vetterli, which used a cartridge loaded with Ballistite.

As Italy was a competing Great Power to France, this was not received well by the French press and the public. The newspapers accused Nobel of industrial espionage, by spying on Vieille, and "high treason against France". Following a police investigation he was refused permission to conduct any more research, or to manufacture explosives in France. He therefore moved to San Remo in Italy, in 1891, where he spent the last five years of his life.[7]
Patent infringement claim against Great Britain

Meanwhile, a government committee in Great Britain, called the "Explosives Committee" and chaired by Sir Frederick Abel monitored foreign developments in explosives. Abel and Sir James Dewar, who was also on the committee, jointly patented a modified form of ballistite in 1889. This consisted of 58% nitroglycerin by weight, 37% guncotton and 5% petroleum jelly. Using acetone as a solvent, it was extruded as spaghetti-like rods initially called "cord powder" or "the Committee's modification of Ballistite", but this was soon abbreviated to cordite.

After unsuccessful negotiations, in 1893 Nobel sued Abel and Dewar over patent infringement and lost the case.[8] It then went to the Court of Appeal and the House of Lords in 1895 but he also lost the two appeals and the Nobel's Explosives Company had to pay the costs.[8] The claim was lost because the words "of the well-known soluble kind" in his patent were taken to mean soluble collodion, and to specifically exclude the water-insoluble guncotton.[8]

Cordite, ballistite and Poudre B continued to be used in various armed forces for many years, but cordite gradually became predominant.

Ballistite is still manufactured as a solid fuel rocket propellant, although the less volatile but chemically similar diphenylamine is used instead of camphor.


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You clearly stated plastic as your card.. You already lose if I use cardboard and lamination.
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April 06, 2013, 09:55:16 AM
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"Any future project that will have 4D holographic projections"

You have to bear in mind that my description is inventive making it clear how such technology can be implemented, which is different from your holographic projection example, that is not inventive in any way and could not be used without further details and descriptions unlike mine that is a step ahead in innovation.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 10:04:15 AM
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You clearly stated plastic as your card.. You already lose if I use cardboard and lamination.

No one could fairly agree with you that my mentioning of plastic was not rather illustrative in the broad and clearly abstract description of what I was talking about, where emphasis on abstraction and the mentioning of both physical and virtual makes it so clear.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 11:00:22 AM
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In the meantime a new patent of mine might be on its way:

 Cheesy

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 11:37:42 AM
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don't think I've ever seen a real patent application with spelling mistakes before.  Impressive!

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April 06, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
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Believe it or not I wrote it in a mental institution while sectioned under the Mental Health act for three months, provided I was with a laptop without internet connection.
I have gone through it all in terms of mental asylum. That is the main reason I am a scientologist. For being completly against the use of drugs and psychiatric abuse.
People really should know better.

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{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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April 06, 2013, 12:52:56 PM
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Believe it or not I wrote it in a mental institution while sectioned under the Mental Health act for three months, provided I was with a laptop without internet connection.
I have gone through it all in terms of mental asylum. That is the main reason I am a scientologist. For being completly against the use of drugs and psychiatric abuse.
People really should know better.

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