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November 11, 2016, 06:50:04 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.
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November 11, 2016, 07:03:19 AM
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I just failed to understand what exactly are you trying to here. You mean to say you will create a new currency. Then you will speculate on it, and give it to all for free. Then we use it to trade and then again speculate over this. I am completely confused as to what is this about, can you please simply a little more, or if any one could explain what does op wants?
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November 11, 2016, 07:09:37 AM
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I just failed to understand what exactly are you trying to here. You mean to say you will create a new currency. Then you will speculate on it, and give it to all for free. Then we use it to trade and then again speculate over this. I am completely confused as to what is this about, can you please simply a little more, or if any one could explain what does op wants?

basically i will create a decentralized prediction market just like augur but without trading fees because the resolution of the events will be based on augur.
i will create an erc20 token to be used for trading in this market.
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November 11, 2016, 11:50:01 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

I was about telling you to go ahead with the project when I read your last paragraph, the clause is funny because if you are going to refund/return the ETH tokens to the investors, why collect it from them initially, you are only wasting money on transaction fee, you need to know to develop a secure and trusted platform like prediction market is not a joke, you need real money to do that. I will also like to ask what will be your own gain in all of this.
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November 11, 2016, 12:19:22 PM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

I was about telling you to go ahead with the project when I read your last paragraph, the clause is funny because if you are going to refund/return the ETH tokens to the investors, why collect it from them initially, you are only wasting money on transaction fee, you need to know to develop a secure and trusted platform like prediction market is not a joke, you need real money to do that. I will also like to ask what will be your own gain in all of this.

because it is needed for distribution. and it will be a modified version of augur. maybe as developer i can have a certain percentage of the tokens created.
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November 11, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
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Sorry, but that doesnt make sense to me...

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

Why would you make this "crowdsale" and than give it back to investors? why it's needed?

maybe as developer i can have a certain percentage of the tokens created.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.
for what? if there's no fee why would we need the tokens? why would you hold a percentage of the tokens?
explain you project better please..
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November 11, 2016, 10:28:46 PM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

i think  your write idea same all another coin
all dev same with you, free distribution use signature campaign and another promote facebook campaign and twitter campaign
and same ico selling or crowdsale
not diference all dev is same this your idea
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November 12, 2016, 12:28:36 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

i think  your write idea same all another coin
all dev same with you, free distribution use signature campaign and another promote facebook campaign and twitter campaign
and same ico selling or crowdsale
not diference all dev is same this your idea

my idea is a little different. all free distribution but you need to lock your eth for a while to get your tokens. it's like staking your eth. but everything is free.
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November 12, 2016, 01:18:45 AM
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Sorry, but that doesnt make sense to me...

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

Why would you make this "crowdsale" and than give it back to investors? why it's needed?

I just know if that's about finding the price for his coin and i thing already get some if the crowdsale are returned into the investors.

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November 12, 2016, 01:59:31 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

I was about telling you to go ahead with the project when I read your last paragraph, the clause is funny because if you are going to refund/return the ETH tokens to the investors, why collect it from them initially, you are only wasting money on transaction fee, you need to know to develop a secure and trusted platform like prediction market is not a joke, you need real money to do that. I will also like to ask what will be your own gain in all of this.

because it is needed for distribution. and it will be a modified version of augur. maybe as developer i can have a certain percentage of the tokens created.

Use a snapshot similar to what Byteball is planning. No need to send ETH anywhere.
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November 12, 2016, 04:36:46 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

I was about telling you to go ahead with the project when I read your last paragraph, the clause is funny because if you are going to refund/return the ETH tokens to the investors, why collect it from them initially, you are only wasting money on transaction fee, you need to know to develop a secure and trusted platform like prediction market is not a joke, you need real money to do that. I will also like to ask what will be your own gain in all of this.

because it is needed for distribution. and it will be a modified version of augur. maybe as developer i can have a certain percentage of the tokens created.

Use a snapshot similar to what Byteball is planning. No need to send ETH anywhere.

it's easier to do a smart contract and perfectly safe and fully automated
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November 12, 2016, 12:20:37 PM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

I was about telling you to go ahead with the project when I read your last paragraph, the clause is funny because if you are going to refund/return the ETH tokens to the investors, why collect it from them initially, you are only wasting money on transaction fee, you need to know to develop a secure and trusted platform like prediction market is not a joke, you need real money to do that. I will also like to ask what will be your own gain in all of this.

because it is needed for distribution. and it will be a modified version of augur. maybe as developer i can have a certain percentage of the tokens created.

Use a snapshot similar to what Byteball is planning. No need to send ETH anywhere.

it's easier to do a smart contract and perfectly safe and fully automated

Ok, at this point, I shouldn't even bother anymore, everybody can see the writing on the wall. But just for fun:

you are actually trying to say that it is easier to write a smart contract, that everybody who wants to participate either has to read and understand or trust in, than writing a script, that checks the balances of submitted addresses at a certain block height, then calculates percentages, then sends out tokens, everything completely automatic and openly visible, without the need for people to send ETH to an address they don't have control over?
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November 26, 2016, 01:19:02 AM
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Every time a scammer gets exposed for being a scammer, I wonder what they will come up with next time. Maybe, it would be more prudent to play along, just to waste their time and keep them from developing new schemes? It's a battle against the Hydra, really…

(just to be clear here: I don't say, that keelaah necessarily is a scammer, but it shure looks like it)
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November 26, 2016, 01:42:05 AM
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Every time a scammer gets exposed for being a scammer, I wonder what they will come up with next time. Maybe, it would be more prudent to play along, just to waste their time and keep them from developing new schemes? It's a battle against the Hydra, really…

(just to be clear here: I don't say, that keelaah necessarily is a scammer, but it shure looks like it)
But in this time the worst thing was need to get elimination such as the easiest way for building erc20 token based ethereum.

You was getting the point, This can be real evidence for us if these features have got a gold chance for a scammer. Building his shitcoin today.

Alex , Vitalik need to remove this if he can. such the blatant scam. It's battle and will need a lot of energy.  Angry

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November 26, 2016, 02:00:45 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

We have seen these kind of schemes again and again with none of them becoming successful. We also have seen a lot of scamming in this site by coming up with these type of crowdsales promising to be a better platform and all of them fail. Even the mighty Ethereum is failing. How will ERC20 be any different?

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November 26, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker. I have an idea and I would like to let everyone know for discussion.
I plan to create an ERC20 token and distribute it for free.
Then I will create a prediction market using this token.
The prediction market will be using augur's published markets, then we trade shares using the token i created.
The market will also use augur's oracles for resolution.

This way, we can have a prediction market without fees unlike augur's 2% fee each trade.

Let me know your ideas. I'm currently coding the token now. I will get the idea from the crowdsale of golem network.

Basically the ERC20 token that i will create will have a crowdsale but at the end of the crowdsale period the participants will get their tokens and also their eth. So basically, it's free. Just lock up your eth for the duration of the crowdsale.

Even the mighty Ethereum is failing. How will ERC20 be any different?
It will not be any different, The mighty tree was getting broken and what about a little stalk? It will mean nothing.
Is it a big mistake? We will get confirm if we just watch what happen with the mighty tree in the future. ERC20 is a little stalk.

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