Bitcoin Forum
May 27, 2024, 12:28:57 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: If MtGox can't handle the load, it should limit frequency&amount of orders/user  (Read 967 times)
arsenische (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012


View Profile
April 11, 2013, 01:42:45 PM
 #1

If I get it right, the bottleneck is its order matching engine.

So why doesn't it limit the maximum allowed number of simultaneous orders and the frequency of orders from each user?

Also, when lags increase, maybe bots that abuse the service should have a lower priority than people.

It could have been much better experience if users could execute 1 buy or sell order immediately anytime using captcha.

tiptopgemdotcom
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1000


Truly decentralized stable asset


View Profile
April 11, 2013, 04:32:24 PM
 #2

If I get it right, the bottleneck is its order matching engine.

So why doesn't it limit the maximum allowed number of simultaneous orders and the frequency of orders from each user?

Also, when lags increase, maybe bots that abuse the service should have a lower priority than people.

It could have been much better experience if users could execute 1 buy or sell order immediately anytime using captcha.

Amen to that!

        ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄
     ▀▀ ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄ ▀▀▄
  ▄  ▄▀▀           ▀▀  ▀▄
 ▄▀ █      ▐█ █▌      █ ▀▄
▄█ █     ▄███████▄     █ █▄
█ ▄▀    ██▀▐█ █▌▀██     █ █
█ █     ██ ▐█ █▌ ██     █ █
█ ▀▄    ██▄▐█ █▌███    ▄▀ █
▀█ █     ▀████████▄    █ █▀
 ▀▄ ▀      ▐█ █▌ ▀█▌  █ ▄▀
  ▀▄  ▀▄           ▄▄▀  ▀
    ▀▄▄ ▀▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀ ▄▄
       ▀▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀
      █▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
▄▄▄▀▀▀█   ▄▄▄▄▄▄   █
█     █ ▄▀      ▀▄ █
 █  ▄██ █        █ █
 █  █ █ █        ▀ █
  █ █ █ █ ▄█▄█▄  ▀ █
  █  ██ █  █▄▄█▄ █ █
   █ ██ ▄ ▄█▄▄▄█ █ █
   █  █ ▄  ▀ ▀   █ █
    █ █ █        █ █
    █ █ ▀▄      ▄▀ █
     ██   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   █
      █▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█
.PLATINUM  STABLECOINS
..USDQ KRWQ CNYQ JPYQ...

─────────────────────────
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
█     ████     █
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀
██████
██
██







██
██
██████
██████
██
██







██
██
██████
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬   WHITEPAPER   ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
...FACEBOOK... .....TWITTER..... ...TELEGRAM...
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬   ANN THREAD   ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
arsenische (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012


View Profile
April 12, 2013, 02:18:08 AM
 #3

hardware upgrade obviously couldn't solve their problem...

thebaron
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 12, 2013, 02:19:23 AM
 #4

hardware upgrade obviously couldn't solve their problem...

Between bad software and DDoS? Yep.
rograz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 575
Merit: 500


View Profile
April 12, 2013, 03:39:56 AM
 #5

just put a set price of 0,001 btc per buy/sell order in addition to the normal transaction fee, suddenly the spam got very expensive and wont really affect anyone else.
Furyan
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 175
Merit: 102



View Profile
April 12, 2013, 03:48:18 AM
 #6

just put a set price of 0,001 btc per buy/sell order in addition to the normal transaction fee, suddenly the spam got very expensive and wont really affect anyone else.

This, although to be specific, it should be *PER API CALL*, not per order actually completed.  Or you could batch, charge say 0.01 per 100 calls to the API. Make it expensive to use a bot that functions by hammering the market so hard that nobody has any idea what's going on - such as filling the space between actual bids with 100 bids of 0.01 btc.

But then again, I think the bigger problem is the lag.  Hard to know what to do when you're watching activity from 30 seconds ago, much less even 5, 10, or 60 minutes ago.
tiptopgemdotcom
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1000


Truly decentralized stable asset


View Profile
April 12, 2013, 04:19:18 AM
 #7

I am not an IT professional but it seems like there are some ideas to improve the situation.  I suppose the next logical question is why mtgox isn't doing anything.  Or why they aren't communicating.  The message on their site about letting the market "cool down" was very bizarre.  I am confused by all of this.  Did they close to update server capacity or to let the market "cool down"?  If they didn't do anything to improve the situation why are they open now?  Opening again and being faced with the exact same problems isn't helpful to anyone.

I am not in any kind of hurry to buy or sell, I am just sitting on my coins and watching.  It just seems that mtgox isn't doing anything to help themselves.

        ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄
     ▀▀ ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄ ▀▀▄
  ▄  ▄▀▀           ▀▀  ▀▄
 ▄▀ █      ▐█ █▌      █ ▀▄
▄█ █     ▄███████▄     █ █▄
█ ▄▀    ██▀▐█ █▌▀██     █ █
█ █     ██ ▐█ █▌ ██     █ █
█ ▀▄    ██▄▐█ █▌███    ▄▀ █
▀█ █     ▀████████▄    █ █▀
 ▀▄ ▀      ▐█ █▌ ▀█▌  █ ▄▀
  ▀▄  ▀▄           ▄▄▀  ▀
    ▀▄▄ ▀▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀ ▄▄
       ▀▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀
      █▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
▄▄▄▀▀▀█   ▄▄▄▄▄▄   █
█     █ ▄▀      ▀▄ █
 █  ▄██ █        █ █
 █  █ █ █        ▀ █
  █ █ █ █ ▄█▄█▄  ▀ █
  █  ██ █  █▄▄█▄ █ █
   █ ██ ▄ ▄█▄▄▄█ █ █
   █  █ ▄  ▀ ▀   █ █
    █ █ █        █ █
    █ █ ▀▄      ▄▀ █
     ██   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   █
      █▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█
.PLATINUM  STABLECOINS
..USDQ KRWQ CNYQ JPYQ...

─────────────────────────
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█              █
█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
█     ████     █
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀
██████
██
██







██
██
██████
██████
██
██







██
██
██████
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬   WHITEPAPER   ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
...FACEBOOK... .....TWITTER..... ...TELEGRAM...
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬   ANN THREAD   ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
arsenische (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012


View Profile
April 12, 2013, 05:59:18 AM
 #8

I am not an IT professional but it seems like there are some ideas to improve the situation.  I suppose the next logical question is why mtgox isn't doing anything.  Or why they aren't communicating.  The message on their site about letting the market "cool down" was very bizarre.  I am confused by all of this.  Did they close to update server capacity or to let the market "cool down"?  If they didn't do anything to improve the situation why are they open now?  Opening again and being faced with the exact same problems isn't helpful to anyone.

I am not in any kind of hurry to buy or sell, I am just sitting on my coins and watching.  It just seems that mtgox isn't doing anything to help themselves.

I think they said somewhere that they were upgrading servers... and announced that they are letting the market to cool down. But I really don't understand why they don't limit amount of orders and requests per user/bot if their engine can't process large amounts of orders in a timely fashion.

repentance
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868
Merit: 1000


View Profile
April 12, 2013, 06:52:39 AM
 #9

I am not an IT professional but it seems like there are some ideas to improve the situation.  I suppose the next logical question is why mtgox isn't doing anything.  Or why they aren't communicating.  The message on their site about letting the market "cool down" was very bizarre.  I am confused by all of this.  Did they close to update server capacity or to let the market "cool down"?  If they didn't do anything to improve the situation why are they open now?  Opening again and being faced with the exact same problems isn't helpful to anyone.

I am not in any kind of hurry to buy or sell, I am just sitting on my coins and watching.  It just seems that mtgox isn't doing anything to help themselves.

Upgrading their servers isn't enough to fix the problem.

"Cool down" means they're hoping that when they re-open there'll be less people panic buying/selling based on emotion and so they won't be overwhelmed by people stampeding to trade based on the slightest movement.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!