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February 09, 2017, 10:27:24 PM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
Hey want0sell, if you gave the person a option implying that you had a 100% win rate then you should give back the .2. If not then you shouldn't have to give back the .2 because the person knows the risk involved since it's online. You could also be nice to the guy then give the .2, in this particular situation it is entirely up to you.
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February 09, 2017, 11:31:48 PM |
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It depends on the agreement you made beforehand. I hope you did make some kind of agreement, otherwise, I think it would only be fair to repay him.
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February 10, 2017, 01:20:47 AM |
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Technically you should not give it back if you explained to him that there are inherent risks to this agreement. But if you represented yourself as a guaranteed winner and that you will not lose then you have the obligation to give it back. You should have not taken this, you should just made a tipster thread and offer your tips for a fee instead.
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February 10, 2017, 01:25:01 AM |
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If you received it as a loan,yeah,sure but besides that I don't think that you are obligated to do anything,if he just gave you the BTC then you are not bond to give it back,he just took a chance and you didn't make it happen
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February 10, 2017, 01:25:09 AM |
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Technically you should not give it back if you explained to him that there are inherent risks to this agreement. But if you represented yourself as a guaranteed winner and that you will not lose then you have the obligation to give it back. You should have not taken this, you should just made a tipster thread and offer your tips for a fee instead.
I agree. What you offered was an investment, it wasn't a sure thing as gambling is really a risking investment especially having it gambled by another person. So the investor totally should have known that there is a possibility of losing everything as it is an investment. Well, it is up to you guys though.
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February 10, 2017, 01:25:36 AM |
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It depends on your agreement mainly. This is an investment actually and that dude should know that under his discretion, he agreed to give you money and to let you gamble with it in the hopes that it will return with some kind of profit, which apparently hasn't happened to your case. You can give him 0.2 if you like out of goodwill but tbh, you have no responsibility or whatsoever on what happened since you haven't assured to him/her that it will be a 100% guarantee win.
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February 10, 2017, 02:25:46 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
i think you should give him 0.2 from your own btc so he is not disappointed for your deal but its depend how you make this deal because before we make a bets, we should talk each other about the deals. but if he is no problem with your lost and not asked you to give him 0.2 btc so you don't have to do that but i think in the other day if you gets win, you should give 0.2 btc for him as a gift.
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February 10, 2017, 03:40:21 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
First of all, He asked you to help him to make some money and you just did, you suggest a gambling and then he gave you .2 bitcoin which is I know he insist because he is desperate to earn money. So, if this bitcoin that he gave you, lost, then it is not your fault because you didn't want it to happen, and I know that he knows that gambling is this way, either you lose or you win. Giving him back the .2 bitcoin is not really necessary, it his fault, not yours, but if your being a good Samaritan here, then you should at least give him .1, for him to start another way to grow his bitcoin. It is the least you can do.
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February 10, 2017, 03:46:06 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
There is nothing to worry, he approaches you and you just did your job. There is no certain in gambling and no sure bet at all. What you did is you are giving him a bet that you feel it will hit, but true, our luck sometimes are not in favor to us and bad bet happens. The guy who approach you should be matured enough in gambling, he should not trust you with his money in the fist place considering he is asking too much for the winning and just gave you a little percentage of it.
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February 10, 2017, 03:47:40 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
Hey want0sell, if you gave the person a option implying that you had a 100% win rate then you should give back the .2. If not then you shouldn't have to give back the .2 because the person knows the risk involved since it's online. You could also be nice to the guy then give the .2, in this particular situation it is entirely up to you. Agree,it does depend on you gonna give 0.2 and as winner said if you promise him to have a 100% win you will surely somehow guilty since you made promises on that man and you are somehow obligated to giveback because of your words but if its on my case I wont still give btc no matter what because we do know the risk on playing gambling online.
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February 10, 2017, 03:50:23 AM |
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No, you are not obligated to give him the .2
You worked on a 10% profit commission basis and it was his investment...
That's true, imho he should know that when he did it , it was considered high risk investment. However put a trust someone online always have a bad ending. Just a suggestion to everyone here to avoid something like this , if you cannot really responsible on what you have done, just grow up!
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February 10, 2017, 03:57:08 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
If you haven't agreed upon sharing both profit & loss than you are not obligated to give him what you have lost. But if you have agreed to also share loss than you are obligated to give 10% of total loss amount that will be 0.02 BTC from your pocket. However, i am quite sure this is not a paper based agreement so it depends upon how he gonna take this loss.
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February 10, 2017, 04:28:13 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
i think you should give him 0.2 from your own btc so he is not disappointed for your deal but its depend how you make this deal because before we make a bets, we should talk each other about the deals. but if he is no problem with your lost and not asked you to give him 0.2 btc so you don't have to do that but i think in the other day if you gets win, you should give 0.2 btc for him as a gift. Sigh... part and parcel of asking a question here I guess. Thanks for those who gave thoughtful answers. You however are a signature spammer whose post reeks of someone who either uses google translate or cannot speak english very well. you are just mocking on him because he gave an opposite opinion based on what you want to get. If you have the picture of your conversation that the terms is stated, It will be a very big help to gave the right judging. But on your post , you don't have any responsibility to bring back the capital money he/she invested to you because there is no agreement made for moneyback guaranteed before you agree. I'm waiting for the screenshot of the conversation so that your will be clarified. For the mean time, just lock your thread so that you will not received more spam post.
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February 10, 2017, 05:01:19 AM |
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Someone in a gambling site was asking for someone to help them make some money. I directed him towards my tipster Championship results and he gave me .2 to work with and I was to give him 90% of the profit. I lost it all on some bad beats. Am I obligated to give him .2 of my own BTC or not?
Since you've promise for working his money , you should to refund him , IMO since you already believe and convince someone that you're taking responsibilities on someone But all depend on your first agreement about the risk of your working method so both side can accept any result.
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