Anti-pumper strategy

[dj_andreasgr]

Thinking out loud: although it would be just great to have one of these rather unknown coins (i.e. bitcoinPlus, bitcoindark etc) it is highly probable that no sane investor owns even a bit of these "coins". There is hardly any reason for this stratospheric pump (apart from inside info that will get known in a few days if applicable). So the strategy is this one shall not buy in these highs in fact if literally noone buys anything, the pumpers have two options: either pump it more or abandon the pump machine and let "market" decide the true value (which is way lower). Agree?

[Goal]

People will buy where the money is made. Things like this will always happen throughout the altcoin market right now. Id look at this as a primal-esque problem until altcoins become more stable and the best apples are the only ones left hanging on in the market. Survival of the fittest. Let people take their profit because the market will correct itself in the long run

[Golftech]

People will buy where the money is made. Things like this will always happen throughout the altcoin market right now. Id look at this as a primal-esque problem until altcoins become more stable and the best apples are the only ones left hanging on in the market. Survival of the fittest. Let people take their profit because the market will correct itself in the long run

well that's right the last one who can hang and continue growing together with btc will make its value in the long run, as we knew that
people really using alts just to continue getting profits and the cycle will like this as long as there's no real means for the alts unlike btc.

[BitcoinNational]

OP you mean the LOSE money strat?
rLLy?

[shanem]

People will buy where the money is made. Things like this will always happen throughout the altcoin market right now. Id look at this as a primal-esque problem until altcoins become more stable and the best apples are the only ones left hanging on in the market. Survival of the fittest. Let people take their profit because the market will correct itself in the long run

well that's right the last one who can hang and continue growing together with btc will make its value in the long run, as we knew that
people really using alts just to continue getting profits and the cycle will like this as long as there's no real means for the alts unlike btc.

Yes, I agree that people should not buy the overpriced altcoins in the market. Even if you missed the boat, I rather you wait for a deep market correction or look for opportunities elsewhere.
There are always opportunities in the altcoin market. Buying into those heavily pumped coin is risky and encourages pumper to pump and dump other coins which makes newbies leave the market after getting burned.

[Ayers]

Thinking out loud: although it would be just great to have one of these rather unknown coins (i.e. bitcoinPlus, bitcoindark etc) it is highly probable that no sane investor owns even a bit of these "coins". There is hardly any reason for this stratospheric pump (apart from inside info that will get known in a few days if applicable). So the strategy is this one shall not buy in these highs in fact if literally noone buys anything, the pumpers have two options: either pump it more or abandon the pump machine and let "market" decide the true value (which is way lower). Agree?

the strategy is a bit confusig, there is no anti pump, a group of whales can pump everything they want, but there is anti dump, if you make a coin that is very slow in confirmation you can remove the dumping from miners on the market, and if you don't let people buy for whatever reason just to not have your coins pumped, you will kill the coin

[McWorse]

Why against pumpers?
After beeing in the altcoin market for 2 1/2 weeks my directive is:
Just swim with the whales!
Buy on a dump - sell on a pump.
Because real hard pumps are like big earthquakes - with a lot of aftershocks (smaller pumps and dumps) following. And using these aftershocks right means:
Collecting a lot of coins.
Just did this with decred the last days (+80% coins) and at the moment with UNITY (+70% coins).
But don't forget:
This is only a snapshot and I am for only 17 days at the market...
But until now, it worked very well.
So:
Let the whales swim in!


And in the end:
If everyone will do so, pumps and dumps will be lessend.

Regards!
McW

[dj_andreasgr]

oh yes i totally agree that in the long run the best alts will survive. the challenge here is to try and see which ones will die, which are just pump coins and which are just spending your time.

OP you mean the LOSE money strat?
rLLy?

i am not sure i understood the question..

Why against pumpers?
After beeing in the altcoin market for 2 1/2 weeks my directive is:
Just swim with the whales!
Buy on a dump - sell on a pump.
Because real hard pumps are like big earthquakes - with a lot of aftershocks (smaller pumps and dumps) following. And using these aftershocks right means:
Collecting a lot of coins.
Just did this with decred the last days (+80% coins) and at the moment with UNITY (+70% coins).
But don't forget:
This is only a snapshot and I am for only 17 days at the market...
But until now, it worked very well.
So:
Let the whales swim in!


And in the end:
If everyone will do so, pumps and dumps will be lessend.

Regards!
McW

well some answers to what you say. if you are lucky enough to be at the starting line of the whales swimming please do so, chances are that you will get big profits fast. If you are again lucky to get the afterschocks please do so. I can hardly see any other factor having any significance here apart from pure luck or inside info. The problem is that you will never be sure whether the pump is meant to be 200% or 1200% and at which point of the curve you are buying. This is the problem with manipulated or orchestrated pumps of coins that have no other value proposition (except being speculative vehicles). SO the pumpers hope and almost always succeed to get all smaller fish buy their coins at the highs, where they have already cashed out. So they get the money, you get coins ready to fall.

[Huge Black Woman]

Thet there's a great strategy,  bumlick, but these crackas up in heah be too far dilapidated mentally ta heed yo directive.   They too many suckas tryin' ta be the beefiest nigga in tha pig pile, an' no matta how shitty these coins be, they always gon' be peeps wit schizo-freeby-jeebia that's gon' buy 'em.  Cain't do nuttin' bout it.

[Pursuer]

well, that's not going to work because most of these are "pumping groups" and what they do is that the heads of the group start buying a random altcoin themselves; accumulate as much as they can at low and fixed prices without disturbing the balance. then when they place their sell orders on top again distributing it so that nobody notices, and then tell their disciples to start buying that random altcoin and those poor bastards start buying obviously not everyone is online at the same time and as the price goes up they end up paying higher and higher amount and when others from outside join in FOMO buying, the price goes to the moon and the pumpers start unloading big time and exiting.

and the dump also happens like this:
they sell a little first, price tanks and orderbook becomes thin. they let some time passes so that some orders are placed and some victims start buying up or place some orders then they unload again price tanks again. a couple of times and price crashes.

you cant do anything against this unless you either are paying the scammers to tell you when and what.
or you are skilled enough to see the signs of accumulation and early stages of pump and you join in too and then unload even before the pumpers start and make your profit and make a successful exit.

[lionheart78]

Definitely not for a beginner.  Pump is hard to know unless we have info from the insider.  Whales are kinda tricky but somehow there are indications. If support volume become bigger and bigger and the highest bid have the largest buy order pushing investors to buy higher. Definitely an incoming dump is coming.  Whales accumulate when market is quiet, then push the market up creating FOMO to the investors to make them start to panic buy.

you cant do anything against this unless you either are paying the scammers to tell you when and what.
or you are skilled enough to see the signs of accumulation and early stages of pump and you join in too and then unload even before the pumpers start and make your profit and make a successful exit.

I agree you cannot do anything against it but to watch or swim with the manipulation of whales.

[ether19]

I think it is not possible to beat a pump groups as the entire crypto is in the hands of such groups and whales. It is just how the game goes for now. And any cautious trader or investor will need to do some homework before buying into any coins or tokens. It doesn't matter whether they are dirt cheap or pumped up. You are responsible for what you do especially when it comes to investing your funds.

[no0dlepunk]

Well I don't think we can do that anti-pump amigo! but we can always buy the garbage at our own risk and wait for the whales to bump bump pump pump...