This was not what you said about 12 days ago, you predicted that Gox will lag whenever the price starts dropping.
If the price starts dropping, you can rest assured Gox will lag. The lower they go, the longer the lag. Same lag, different excuse. Sometimes they lag because of success. Sometimes they lag because of panic selling. Sometimes they lag because of DDoS. Or, perhaps they lag to manipulate the price?
How are my statements different? According to Mt Gox, they lagged out because of success during a large round of sign-ups, because of DDoS, because of panic selling, etc. They've given those three excuses, so is that even debatable?? I see the same lag no matter what the excuse, so it leads me to question their excuses.
And when the price drops substantially, the vast majority of the time we do lag. I'm not even sure what you're debating and what I've said that isn't factual.
Take today, for instance. We trend lower to $123 then lag out. We slowly make it to 120, lag out even more, then bounce to 145 in less than a minute. Is that the work of some nefarious manipulator trying to destroy the price? If so, they failed miserably. There was absolutely no sign of manipulation while we were trending lower. The bizarre pricing action didn't start happening until after the lag and happened to the upside.
And your way of argument is pathetic, it's like saying"If my opponent beats me then he uses foul play, if I beat him then it's because I am too powerful that even his foul plays are ineffective."， Wonderful， keep'em coming.
You also conveniently ignore the fact that Gox also lagged profusely during a lot of spike-ups, the most recent ones are just after the crash and well "documented" in the wall thread, check it out.
Of course you would also consider the many(not just one, please) instances of simultaneous price dips and DDOSes to be mere coincidences, or Gox just made them up to make everything looks real, who knows.
I haven't seen them lag out on the upside as I said I have not been watching it closely for the past week or so. I'll take your word for it. I certainly did not see lagging on the upside during March and the first half of April, which is the period we were discussing, at least while I was watching it. Yes, I did read that it lagged after the big crash and, as I said, I saw trading bots pushing it lower, I believe, the day after the lag....that made me feel a little better (to see it on both sides) because I had not seen that in the weeks before the crash. I believe I posted something to that effect.
I do not associate the dips with lags in the same way that you obviously do.....the dips happen before the lags, just like today. How hard is that to understand? If we trend sharply lower without a sign of manipulation (as happened weekly leading up the real crash, and today) and then we DDoS, or lag out, and the price does not move substantially lower after the lag (or bounces), why would I associate the lag with a trend lower as cause and effect?
If something is creating that lag to move the price down, then it is having the opposite effect almost every time. If someone is creating it protect the price, then its generally working. Because you don't think it's coincidental, you obviously think someone has a motive. So I guess in your mind they are failing miserably. I see it from the other side of the coin. I think they (whomever they be) are successful most of the time.....selling was simply too strong on April 11th.
I can tell you are emotionally invested in this. I'm simply stating what I'm seeing. My goal is not to upset you or anyone else, and I'm certainly not trying to provoke personal attacks. I fully respect your viewpoint. We simply disagree.
