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April 29, 2013, 08:47:38 PM
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I just recently made this ASIC info page: http://minr.info/

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April 29, 2013, 09:29:24 PM
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Hi, you can also head over to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189582.0 and order a little piece of the Avalon. With 20 chips you will have about 5GHash/s at 1.66 BTC for the chips and probably 1 more BTC for the device. The shipping date for the complete device is around August. I'm saying this as Avalon, not as BFL. It will probably ship sooner, but expect the worse.

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April 29, 2013, 09:56:52 PM
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They just aren't pulling in much at the current difficult compared to electricity costs.

You answered your own question then - if your cards are losing money you either have to speculate on ASICs or pack it in. If you want definite delivery, see:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221220586726

sheer stupidity

Lol yeah for that money your approaching the cost of a GPU system that would have at least some resale value.  If they get to the point of shipping 30,50,100+GH/s systems regularly the jalapeno is going to be worthless.

Not to mention you can mine with Litecoins when Bitcoin is dead for GPU miners  Roll Eyes
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April 29, 2013, 10:01:10 PM
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I just recently made this ASIC info page: http://minr.info/

Great information there. Good job  Wink
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May 09, 2013, 07:13:55 AM
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Simply stated, if you are just getting interested in ASICs now and you aren't willing to spend a heap of money ($15k or more), you are out of luck.

If you order now from Butterfly Labs, you'll be lucky to get something by the end of the year. There are 60k or so orders ahead of you!

Avalon is about to ship batch 2. Batch 3 is sold out and batch 4 hasn't even been announced yet.

Basically, if you order now, by the time you get your miner difficulty will be so high that it will never pay for itself.


Your only option is to go to ebay and bid on one of the avalon batch 1 miners ($30k+), one of the soon to be shipped batch 2 miners ($15k+), or take a big risk on the butterfly labs miners (shipping anywhere from 1-3 months away at least). There are a couple of butterfly labs jalapenos that have been shipped but they are only 5 GH/s and way overpriced on ebay. I'd wait for a 30 or 60 machine.


either you or i dont get it, if difficulty rises the asic is the only chip one can use to mine, so it will pay for itself, just a matter of time o.O
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May 11, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
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ASICMiner is auctioning off more blades at their latest auction at a fixed price (49.99 BTC) for their 10 GH/s boards

Benefits:

You'll get these within a week of auction's end
Beat everyone else who bought Avalon Batch 2/3
Great customer service (online guide up)

Check it out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.0
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May 11, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
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If I try to sum up the ASIC situation... from what i could read here on this forum.
you are gladly invited to correct me if i'm wrong ...

AVALON : 3 batches. Batch one has been processed (not entirely). Batch 3 not begun yet. possible 900 (batch 1 and 2) devices but some customer did not received yet.
horribly expensive except for batch 1 ... no news for batch 4 you can still see some prices but it is out of stock right now
trouble with delivery also .. (custom and batch processing)


Comments are welcomed.

since you asked for input, I disagree with the underlined part above. batch 2 (when it was re-opened, after the original launch failed horribly) was around 56 BTC (worth exactly $1500 at the time) --- if that batch is received before june (even july) it will should achieve 100% ROI within around 2 months. batch 3 was a bit pricey, but should ship closely after batch 2...

when considered against 75btc for a 10GH/s machine, 56 BTC for 66 GH/s seems reasonable, as long as it arrives before... say.... 30 million difficulty? (*note* the owners of those first batch erupters should be earning .5 BTC per day per card today, while the avalon batch 2 orders are currently earning nothing)


Also...
I just recently made this ASIC info page: http://minr.info/

Thank you. This is an awesome resource.

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May 11, 2013, 04:17:12 PM
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Ok so I have the funds to purchase a new dedicated rig and stop toying with with 10 hd 5830s, 5850s, and 7850s...

I am READY to buy one of these ASIC rigs from butterfly or Avalon but do they even really exist?

Help?

- Blackout

The simple answer to your question is yes, they exist. However by the time you get it shipped to you, the profitability will have significantly decreased.
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