[Ready!] 2017 Second Edition Keyois Capsules with tungsten rings available now

[Hhampuz]

*edit, to those replying in a completely off topic way, please some some reproducible and demonstrable evidence to back your viewpoint and you'll get a lot further with your attempts at convincing other to your own opinion.

Our posts are definitely not off-topic. This is a product from Keyois, and comments regarding the actions of Keyois are very relevant. It seems that you are spamming pretty much everyone from a pre-defined list of people who "showed interest", even though I have been completely against your product. Let me repeat myself one more time: I will not be buying anything from a BU supporting company and will tell everyone else to stay away from such companies. I have put you on PM-ignore to avoid more unwanted reservation of products PMs.

Case closed.
~Lauda

Again I'm going to agree with Lauda on this matter. You have represented keyois here and you made the decision to get the product included when you made those posts. So I'm not interested in these either, and I'd also like to not receive any more PM's regarding it.

[Lincoln6Echo]

wow what a bummer! Those Capsules look nice but supporting Bitmain/BU is a no go for me. Thanks cat for pointing out!

[chronicsky]

i totally forgot about you supporting BU unless i saw this thread
Thanks for PM'ing me about these!

Though i will probably like to have one but i do not want to endorse BU, so i will pass

PS - see for yourself how it is  , still time for you to make things right

[hybridsole]

This is the market speaking, and the market is saying no to BU and the few ill-informed businesses that support this political coup on the open-source core developers.  The market does not want to put block size into the hands of a mining cartel in China and incompetent developers who have repeatedly introduced bugs into their "emergent consensus" implementation. We don't want to see Bitcoin nodes centralized into data centers as the blockchain begins taking up terabytes of space which exceeds consumer hardware and bandwidth that exceeds data caps established by most ISPs.  The market does not want to see the ease in which governments can disrupt bitcoin by going after these data centers and mining cartels who exist at the pleasure of the governments in which they are established. 

If you don't like it, maybe you don't understand your target market.  I'm sure Roger Ver will buy a few Keyois capsules as gifts for his employees that he pays to make pro-BU propaganda posts.  But the rest of us want nothing to do with your fancy trinket if it includes an endorsement of the poison pill known as BU.

[aolley]

*edit, to those replying in a completely off topic way, please some some reproducible and demonstrable evidence to back your viewpoint and you'll get a lot further with your attempts at convincing other to your own opinion.

Our posts are definitely not off-topic. This is a product from Keyois, and comments regarding the actions of Keyois are very relevant. It seems that you are spamming pretty much everyone from a pre-defined list of people who "showed interest", even though I have been completely against your product. Let me repeat myself one more time: I will not be buying anything from a BU supporting company and will tell everyone else to stay away from such companies. I have put you on PM-ignore to avoid more unwanted reservation of products PMs.

Case closed.
~Lauda

Hi there friend!

Your posts are in fact off topic, as the topic is one thing and you bring up another.

Like I have said before, I stick with what the data says, the data right now shows no danger for bigger blocks, no danger for centralization, and no danger for a planned hard fork with a super majority activation.

At the same time logic displays that the Core roadmap to have always full blocks will lead to full blocks and full blocks lead to orphaned transactions, full blocks also lead to fees too high for most of the world to transact with, full blocks also lead to a change in usability.

I will stick with what the data says, if you have any data you would like to share, please do.

[aolley]

*edit, to those replying in a completely off topic way, please some some reproducible and demonstrable evidence to back your viewpoint and you'll get a lot further with your attempts at convincing other to your own opinion.

This is a very poor attitude to take, you should remember that you do not run bitcointalk and it is an open discussion board. Customers have brought up a point, which you have specifically tied to Keyois in a blog post and now you are hiding instead of justifying your reasoning. I don't know much about this BTU/Segwit detail, but I can see someone dodging important questions a mile away.

It is true I did not reply to the off-topic posts but I believe I have already said all there is to say on the matter.

I go with what the data and anlysis say, and at this point that is Not full blocks.

Please note that I stated I favored what the data said and asked for data which disputed it and no data to dispute it came.

As far as I am concerned I will keep sticking with the data, if there is any data to support full blocks I would be very interested to see it. If there is any data to suggest segregated witness as softfork is better than a mainchain data cap increase I would happily look at it. Yet I see no data that disputes me and only data to validate my current opinion.


If you would be so kind as to tell me what questions I have 'dodged' I would be happy to address them.

[Lauda]

Your posts are in fact off topic, as the topic is one thing and you bring up another.

No it is not. As long as it is relevant to me purchasing Keyois or not, and the company who produces it, it's very much on-topic. Besides, who are you to judge as a relative newcomer to Bitcoin and a newcomer to this forum?

Like I have said before, I stick with what the data says, the data right now shows no danger for bigger blocks, no danger for centralization, and no danger for a planned hard fork with a super majority activation.

All three points are bullshit. There are a few gifs from Peter R Charlatan and that's about all of it. There is no data supporting what you claim, nor have I seen any BTU supporter post this data anywhere. A simple 2 MB block size limit could indefinitely DoS the network due to quadratic validation time (no "parallel validation" from BTU does not solve jack shit). This single sentence is enough to invalidate anything related to BU.

I'm sure Roger Ver will buy a few Keyois capsules as gifts for his employees that he pays to make pro-BU propaganda posts.  But the rest of us want nothing to do with your fancy trinket if it includes an endorsement of the poison pill known as BU.

This.
It's pointless to try to sell in this second when almost all of the collectors are pro status-quo. Some may let this slip and still buy from you though. Don't forget to rename the next product to Keyois Unlimited.

[aolley]

Hey Hey everyone, second edition capsules are out now, see keyois.com to see them for sale, or keyois.com/about to learn more or even see keyois.com/photos to see more, and of course there is the explanation of why anyone would want anything like this in the first place, which you can read Here.




This thread is old and filled with what appears to be highly ignorant information, so I plan to delete it and create a new one in a few weeks when I get a better video of crushing the capsule with a 12 ton press again or maybe something new. I've got two capsule make expressly for destroying.