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July 30, 2017, 10:44:18 AM
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Hi,
so I am new to the crypto scene and have been reading up on the technicalities behind Bitcoin as much as I could in the past weeks. I feel like I understand the theory reasonably well (I haven't bought anything yet, because I first want to understand what is going on). But what I am missing is, is an understanding of the political movements within the Bitcoin community. I hear a lot of names being dropped here and there and as a newcomer it is pretty hard to follow those. What are the factions behind the fork coming up? What are their motivations, are they ideological or practical? Who are they? Who are the main guys leading the protocol discussion etc.? Obviously this is a very very large thing to ask for. But ideally I would be hoping for a timeline since the early days of Bitcoin and sort of get a timeline of major events and the people behind it driving it. I think this would be great for all newcomers and the community could add onto it as time passes. Or does maybe something comparable already exist? Or am I the only on interested in something like this? What are your thoughts? Something important and crucial would be objectivity. The timeline should not propagate opinions about BCC or BTC for example, but just state their different point of views. Let people decide for themselves. I think that is very important. This is my first post on this forum, because I just moved from reddit. The community there is great, but also very toxic. It's just two camps fighting each other. I was hoping to find something more objective here. Thanks!
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July 30, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
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The current toxic atmosphere is here because miners refuse to follow the community.

The community wants BIP141 (Segwit) to scale Bitcoin, but miners block Segwit because it would remove a bug they are currently abusing and it would lower the fee's they gain with mining.

There are no political groups in Bitcoin. Only developers, users and miners.
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July 30, 2017, 11:09:24 AM
Last edit: July 30, 2017, 11:26:01 AM by DooMAD
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The main thing to keep in mind when reading the inevitable replies to this thread, is that as soon as you ask for an opinion on someone else's motives, you're asking for speculation and not fact.

It's also important to remember that, despite what people here generally claim, there is no single dev team "in charge", "in control" or "in authority".  That runs wholly contrary to the values of open source and permissionlessness which Bitcoin was founded upon.

Personally, I prefer to believe the differences are ideological and (for the most part) not malicious, but at the same time, I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority on that one and fighting against the tide of the general forum narrative.  Make of that what you will.  In essence, it boils down to two distinct views.  Those who want to prioritise keeping the blocksize as small as possible to guarantee decentralisation of non-mining nodes of the network, even if it is at the expense of throughput and users being able to transact cheaply and efficiently.  Then there are those who feel that there is room to manoeuvre on the blocksize if it helps guarantee users being able to transact cheaply and efficiently.  Equally those who would prioritise what tend to be referred to as "off-chain transactions" over "on-chain transactions" and opinions are equally divisive there too.  I try to keep myself somewhere in the middle, believing that both arguments have merit.  Can't help you with a timeline, although I'm sure I remember people maintaining such a thing somewhere.


//EDIT:  Google found this:  

http://btcnews.jp/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/blocksize_debate_timeline_en.png

Not sure if that's what you had in mind or not, but hope it helps.

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July 30, 2017, 11:11:30 AM
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what is the bug the miners are currently abusing?
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July 30, 2017, 11:20:58 AM
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what is the bug the miners are currently abusing?

Here explained:
https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-bug-guide-transaction-malleability/
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