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August 05, 2017, 07:22:09 PM
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Use 2 full nodes. 1 Bitcoin Core full node for your BTC, then 1 Bitcoin Cash full node (or BitcoinABC, whatever they are calling it) and then import your wallet. dat into the BitcoinABC folder. BitcoinABC has replay protection so you SHOULD be safe. Im too scared to lose my real BTC trying to get free money so I haven't done anything yet, but I plan in dumping all of it as soon as I learn for a fact how to do it the right safe way.

I dont find the option on BitcoinABC to import private keys
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August 06, 2017, 01:16:51 PM
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any help on that ?
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August 06, 2017, 02:42:44 PM
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Use 2 full nodes. 1 Bitcoin Core full node for your BTC, then 1 Bitcoin Cash full node (or BitcoinABC, whatever they are calling it) and then import your wallet. dat into the BitcoinABC folder. BitcoinABC has replay protection so you SHOULD be safe. Im too scared to lose my real BTC trying to get free money so I haven't done anything yet, but I plan in dumping all of it as soon as I learn for a fact how to do it the right safe way.
Maybe you could first transfer your bitcoin into another wallet. And then export the key. Why? Had an issue at my wallet. Gained BCH, then sent an amount of BTC to a service and made a backup of my wallet. Restored and had no BCH in my wallet. So I had to follow the step once more and full BCH appeared although I had less bitcoin in my wallet. But bitcoin history was mirrored by BCH and I got the amount that I had before fork.

Yes, this makes perfect sense. You don't want to have the same public keys on both chains, so first of all, you should move your BTC coins that you want to keep in the BTC chain, into another address, then what you export is the empty wallet of the BTC chain, in the BCC chain, and when you do, it will not be empty in the BCC chain, you will still have the BCC there, but they will not be attached to the same public keys as in the BTC chain anymore because you moved them first. This is definitely worth it to be safer.

But the problem is that you will spend a lot of time in transacting and in fees.
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August 06, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
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I had four wallets and did the standard Electron procedure after moving my BTC to fresh electrum wallets.

Two wallets came up with accurate BCC balance. The other two - which were both over 1 year old, with longer transaction histories, came up with way less BCC than should be there. Many tx's missing - both red and black.

I have switched between ABC servers manually, but nothing helps.

Anyone had this happen?

The two "new" BTC versions of these wallets do  not have the tx history. Can I just create "version 3" of these wallets, and then import seeds from current version into Electron? Or should I move the BTC back into the original wallet and try again?
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August 06, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
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I had four wallets and did the standard Electron procedure after moving my BTC to fresh electrum wallets.

Two wallets came up with accurate BCC balance. The other two - which were both over 1 year old, with longer transaction histories, came up with way less BCC than should be there. Many tx's missing - both red and black.

I have switched between ABC servers manually, but nothing helps.

Anyone had this happen?

The two "new" BTC versions of these wallets do  not have the tx history. Can I just create "version 3" of these wallets, and then import seeds from current version into Electron? Or should I move the BTC back into the original wallet and try again?

You can use this very handy website:

https://blockchair.com/

Are the missing tx's on both blockchains?

If you were controlling the private keys during the split, you should be able to access them on the BCash chain.

I can't help you specifically with Electrum because I only use full nodes, but at least with full nodes, the idea is to send the coins to another address, then import this empty wallet into the BCash client, then you should see the entire transaction history and the same amount of BTC you had but in BCH. It should be the same procedure with Electrum (I think, im not sure)

You should ask here for further help:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0

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August 06, 2017, 05:28:45 PM
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I had four wallets and did the standard Electron procedure after moving my BTC to fresh electrum wallets.

Two wallets came up with accurate BCC balance. The other two - which were both over 1 year old, with longer transaction histories, came up with way less BCC than should be there. Many tx's missing - both red and black.

I have switched between ABC servers manually, but nothing helps.

Anyone had this happen?

The two "new" BTC versions of these wallets do  not have the tx history. Can I just create "version 3" of these wallets, and then import seeds from current version into Electron? Or should I move the BTC back into the original wallet and try again?

You can use this very handy website:

https://blockchair.com/

Are the missing tx's on both blockchains?

If you were controlling the private keys during the split, you should be able to access them on the BCash chain.

I can't help you specifically with Electrum because I only use full nodes, but at least with full nodes, the idea is to send the coins to another address, then import this empty wallet into the BCash client, then you should see the entire transaction history and the same amount of BTC you had but in BCH. It should be the same procedure with Electrum (I think, im not sure)

You should ask here for further help:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0



which bcc full node i cant import private keys ? i dont see the option on bitcoinabc (for mac)
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August 06, 2017, 06:19:27 PM
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I had four wallets and did the standard Electron procedure after moving my BTC to fresh electrum wallets.

Two wallets came up with accurate BCC balance. The other two - which were both over 1 year old, with longer transaction histories, came up with way less BCC than should be there. Many tx's missing - both red and black.

I have switched between ABC servers manually, but nothing helps.

Anyone had this happen?

The two "new" BTC versions of these wallets do  not have the tx history. Can I just create "version 3" of these wallets, and then import seeds from current version into Electron? Or should I move the BTC back into the original wallet and try again?

You can use this very handy website:

https://blockchair.com/

Are the missing tx's on both blockchains?

If you were controlling the private keys during the split, you should be able to access them on the BCash chain.

I can't help you specifically with Electrum because I only use full nodes, but at least with full nodes, the idea is to send the coins to another address, then import this empty wallet into the BCash client, then you should see the entire transaction history and the same amount of BTC you had but in BCH. It should be the same procedure with Electrum (I think, im not sure)

You should ask here for further help:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0






Thanks for your reply. Situation is now solved. I simply kept changing ABC servers manually and restarting both wallets. After about two hours they suddenly each updated to the correct tallies and tx's.

It was a bit scary, because about 30 percent of the tx's in the Electrum wallets were missing from the Electron wallets, in a fashion that reduced the wallet balances to nearly zero.



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August 07, 2017, 11:53:43 AM
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i guess im giving up to get my bch  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
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August 21, 2017, 03:25:47 PM
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same problem. Any ideas how to solve it? Smiley
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