Bitcoin Forum
May 29, 2024, 12:36:44 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: The Real Reason China Banned Exchanges? Cryptocurrency is a Ponzi Scheme  (Read 1245 times)
2fresh
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 782
Merit: 500


View Profile
September 11, 2017, 12:09:20 PM
 #21

Do people really think they are doing this? Playing the market by regulating and banning?
I see people say China is buying for low prices.

The price isn't "low" anymore, and what kind of investors or regular users will be attracted to a market that get's banned when a government needs to "buy in".

I'm just not buying these stories.
aretebit
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 10

All that glitters is not bitcoin


View Profile
September 11, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
 #22

OP: You are the one who does not understand what is a ponzi scheme, your arguments are trying to convice that it is a bubble, nothing to do with a ponzi.
And not, it is not a bubble (yet). It is just a new thing that many people like you do not understand and try to connect with old things that they know.

Dirty evil government thieves: Return me my money!
iamTom123
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 501



View Profile
September 11, 2017, 01:06:54 PM
 #23

Think of the worst case scenario: China banned Google, Facebook & Twitter years ago. They're doing fine. And they ain't even decentralized. This is just a game made in China, if you already know long china character you must already know the decision that you specify later.

This is exactly my point. From now on, we have to promote the idea that China is not necessary for the survival and mainstream adoption of Bitcoin and that of cryptocurrency in general. We are not excluding China because Bitcoin is an open kind of thing but if China does now want Bitcoin then let it be...let's move on because I am sure that soon there would be other countries that are more open-minded and would love to be part of the Bitcoin movement.

China will never be the end for Bitcoin...far from it and in fact there are many big and valuable companies now that are not doing business in China yet they are doing just fine. Facebook is one hell of a company and yet it is not having a presence in China. China is just another one of those overrated country in terms of importance.

It is about time we get this message to the whole world. Bitcoin can go on without China!
doedz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106
Merit: 502



View Profile
September 11, 2017, 03:07:10 PM
 #24

The news is too misguided, no Ponzi in bitcoin. Only a fool would apply this system.
Some people try to take advantage of this situation to push the price of Bitcoin. The government is afraid of losing its power in managing finances.
this is very shameful this action is purely due to taxes, and bitcoin does not know the tax.

               ▄█▀ ▄▄▄▄ ▀▀▄▄
           ▄█▀ ▄▄█▀▀   ▀█▄▄▀▀█▄▄
          ▀▀  ▀▀          ▀▀█▄█▀
    ▄▄▀  ▄█▀▀                    ▄   ▄▄
  ▄█▀▄▄█▀           ▄▄           ▀▀█▄ ▀█
 ▄▀ █▀     ▄▄██▄▄   ██   ▄▄██▄▄      █▄ █
 █ ▀█   ▄▄█▀▀   ▀██▄▄█▄▄█▀▀  ▀▀██▄▄   █ █
 █     █▀ ▄▄█▀▀█▄▄ ▀██▀  ▄██▀█▄▄ ▀▀█  █ █
 █  ▄  █ ██▀ ▄▄▄ ▀█ ██ █▀▀ ▄▄▄ ▀██ █  █ █
 █ ██  ▀ ██ █▀▀▀█▄▄ ▀█ ▄▄█▀▀▀▀█ ██ ▀  █ █
   ██    █▀ ▄▄█▄  ▀▀███▀▀  ▄▄▄  ▀█    ▀ █
   ██    ▄▄██▀ ▄▄█▄ ██  █▄▄ ▀▀██▄▄      █
 █ ██    ▀▀ ▄▄█▀▀ ▄▄███▄ ▀▀██▄▄ ▀       █
 █  █      ▀▀▀ ▄██▀▀▄█ ▀██▄▄ ▀▀       █ █
 █  █         ▀▀▀   ██    ▀▀▀         █ █
 ▀█ ▀▄▄             ██              ▄█ ▄█
  ▀█▄ ▀▀▄▄          ██          ▄▄█▀ ▄█▀
     ▀█▄▄▀▀▀        ██       ▄▄ ▀▄▄█▀▀
        ▀▀█▄   ▄▄        ▄▄█▀▀   ▀
            ▀█▄▄▀▀█▄▄▄▄▄▀▀ ▄█▀
               ▀▀█▄▄▀▀ ▄▄█▀
 
E M I R E X
─── إمركس ───
   
...Whitepaper...
   
The Infrastructure for the
New Digital Economy
   
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄██████████████▄▄
▄████████████████████▄
████████████████████████
▄█████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███████
████████▀           ████████
██████████████████████████████
█████████            █████████
█████████  ██████████████████▀
████████▄           ████████
▀█████████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████▀
▀████████████████████████▀
▀████████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀▀
▀▀██████▀▀▀
 
E M R X
 
─ Token ─
 
...LEARN MORE...
   
   
   
   
...Register...
[/cen
Quidat
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2590
Merit: 540


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
September 11, 2017, 03:14:01 PM
 #25

The news is too misguided, no Ponzi in bitcoin. Only a fool would apply this system.
Some people try to take advantage of this situation to push the price of Bitcoin. The government is afraid of losing its power in managing finances.
this is very shameful this action is purely due to taxes, and bitcoin does not know the tax.
Government of China is really afraid regarding on managing finances if they do let their citizens do engage with Bitcoin and ICO.This is why they do make such decisions just to block the further possible effects of bitcoin into their economy since money aren't circulating at its full extent because of cryptocurrency investment.As long they cant impose taxes they will ban anything.

gentlemand
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014


Welt Am Draht


View Profile
September 11, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
 #26

This is the second thread started by this person with the word 'Ponzi' in the title. I think he could do with a holiday or a crowd funded hand job.
fullhdpixel
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2814
Merit: 611



View Profile
September 16, 2017, 05:24:41 AM
 #27

My only problem with crypto is the ability to fork and produce lots of money from nowhere - otherwise it is perfect for me.. man, I hate that practice, wish they could find ways to address it . We don't want crypto to  become another fiat. All "Regulated" Governments constantly print trillions out of nowhere. Crypto must avoid copying the "governments" by all means.

I won't deny a single word of yours. In the case of fiat, the Federal Reserve manages the money supply. In case of people hoarding cash, then it will pump massive amount of cash into the system causing the value of said cash going down slightly, hence stopping people from hoarding money. Same is happening with cryptos now and it is a sad thing.

       ███████████████▄▄
    ██████████████████████▄
  ██████████████████████████▄
 ███████   ▀████████▀   ████▄
██████████    █▀  ▀    ██████▄
███████████▄▄▀  ██  ▀▄▄████████
███████████          █████████
███████████▀▀▄  ██  ▄▀▀████████
██████████▀   ▀▄  ▄▀   ▀██████▀
 ███████  ▄██▄████▄█▄  █████▀
  ██████████████████████████▀
    ██████████████████████▀
       ███████████████▀▀
.
.Duelbits.
.
..THE MOST REWARDING CASINO......
   ▄▄▄▄████▀███▄▄▄▄▄
▄███▄▀▄██▄   ▄██▄▀▄███▄
████▄█▄███▄█▄███▄█▄████
███████████████████████   ▄██▄
██     ██     ██     ██   ▀██▀
██ ▀▀█ ██ ▀▀█ ██ ▀▀█ ██    ██
██  █  ██  █  ██  █  ██
█▌  ██
██     ██     ██     ████  ██
█████████████████████████  ██
████████████████████████████▀
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
████████████████████████▌
       +4,000       
PROVABLY FAIR
GAMES
   $500,000   
MONTHLY
PRIZE POOL
      $10,000     
BLACKJACK
GIVEAWAY
rjbtc2017
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322
Merit: 252


View Profile
September 16, 2017, 05:49:54 AM
 #28

Pure speculation. China's main issue here is control. Ponzi Scheme in what aspect? Bitcoin is a currency not an investment ( it looks like but it is not, and it is not bitcoin's original use and bitcoin's primary function.).
alicenatnaree
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 04, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
 #29

China's plan is quite simple. They want to end the petro-dollar and have said countries can sell there oil to Chinese Yuan which they can transfer into Gold.

China also let's people buy Yuan from other Fiat Currencies, but not sell Yuan into other Fiat currencies. It's a one-way direction only.

The reason they have banned ICO's is to stop people transferring Yuan into other things.

What I am saying is basically China is trying to make their currency into the World's Reserve Currency. So if Cryptocurrency stops their plan they will take action against it. They don't care about Cryptocurrency, they just want to stop Chinese people selling Chinese Yuan.

Lastly, Chinese Yuan is a different Fiat currency, it's 'PEGGED' not 'Floating' meaning they have a fixed price and its not moving, this helps keep the yuan down and they can sell all their products cheaply to the world.
Kencha77
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 574
Merit: 251


View Profile
October 05, 2017, 01:10:35 AM
 #30

They will not absolutely ban exchanges. China will put stricter regulations to these exchanges because there might be some problems to exchanges that China have seen and try to solve it by adding these strict rules.
hatshepsut93
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2982
Merit: 2148


View Profile
October 05, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
 #31

Op, your whole Ponzi argument is based on labor theory of value - the value of something is equal to costs of its production. So, in your mind Bitcoin should cost pennies because it was acquired for pennies. The problem is, real market doesn't care about it, people base prices on their personal feelings, costs of production is just the bottom line for a seller. It's true that some people are hodling since early days and would get insane returns when they decide to sell, but there are much more people who sold earlier, so it's wrong to say that all Bitcoins were acquired cheaply. And lastly, read the story of bearwhale - a good example how market can soak up dumps of early investors and continue growing.
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!