Technological Singularity = EOTWAWKI?

[wolverine.ks]

If the universe is really a computer simulation, would the technological singularity be the time that the administrators would 'reset' the simulation?

[Este Nuno]

No, wouldn't that just be death?

[wolverine.ks]

if you had created a simulation inside a computer, how could that computer support anything that is infinite within a finite space? either something would have to prevent it, or the program would crash.

so it seems logical to assume that of this is a simulation and something doesn't stop the singularity, the it will crash or just be turned of or restarted with slightly different parameters.

[Este Nuno]

Why does singularity = infinite?

[wolverine.ks]

well the mathematical definition of singularity gives 'infinite' as one possible characteristic. that is the definition I am using. assuming that this applies to technological advances, then the technological singularity would mean an infinite amount of knowledge. that seems to me like a deal breaker in any computer program.

however, there does seen to be evidence that the universe is itself without end yet finite. maybe that could done how be applied here.

I've also read that sub absolute temperatures are recorded in a lab experiment. something about negative temperatures end up being hotter than absolute zero.


weird stuff.

[dancupid]

if you had created a simulation inside a computer, how could that computer support anything that is infinite within a finite space? either something would have to prevent it, or the program would crash.

so it seems logical to assume that of this is a simulation and something doesn't stop the singularity, the it will crash or just be turned of or restarted with slightly different parameters.

It wouldn't need to support anything like that - a simulation only has to create information for observers of the simulation.

If I create a computer game that simulates a post singularity world I just have to trick you into thinking you are living in a post singularity world.

[Este Nuno]

negative temperatures end up being hotter than absolute zero.

Buffer Overflow, lol.

[wolverine.ks]

could you explain that a little more? how do you convince someone that what they are experiencing is infinite when fact it is not?

I realize that you could just define infinite to be subverting other than infinite of you were the creator. but assuming that you didn't force a mass delusion by hard coding that way, how could you trick then into thinking that? would it be like looking into a mirror that is reflecting another mirror?

[dancupid]

could you explain that a little more? how do you convince someone that what they are experiencing is infinite when fact it is not?

I realize that you could just define infinite to be subverting other than infinite of you were the creator. but assuming that you didn't force a mass delusion by hard coding that way, how could you trick then into thinking that? would it be like looking into a mirror that is reflecting another mirror?

Are you experiencing the infinite now? Or did you just read something about the infinite in the simulation?
If you are in a simulation, then all the simulation needs to do is present you with a load of second hand facts - if you want to really know then you have to do the experiments yourself - but the simulation will then just create a simulation within the experiment that gives you this simulated information.
A simulated microscope will just see simulated microscopic details that confirm your expectations.
The simulator doesn't need to reproduce this across the entire simulated universe, just every time someone looks through a simulated microscope.

[wolverine.ks]

I can feel my brain creaking...

[J35st3r]

It wouldn't need to support anything like that - a simulation only has to create information for observers of the simulation.

If I create a computer game that simulates a post singularity world I just have to trick you into thinking you are living in a post singularity world.

This way doth madness lie ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

[optimator]

No, wouldn't that just be death?

caused my someone at the data center unplugging the wrong power cord. Not that I've ever done that....