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July 24, 2019, 07:50:40 AM
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simple answers.

Can they know that a bios was modified? YES, ABSOLUTELY. I could do it myself. You only have to read the bios, and watch the numbers. A technician is used to deal with that numbers, so he will detect it almost instantly.i'm not familiarized with your cards, but with my sapphire cards (btw, the best AMD cards you can buy) i would detect the bios mod very fast.

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All the other cards only needed 35 to 50% rpm fans. Depending on your place and conditions, this actions may vary. For example, my 2xMSI RX 580 8gb GAMING X only need rpm at 40% to hold 55ºC operating temp for months at 33ºC ambient temp during summer. They are very good , but Sapphires are better.

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July 24, 2019, 02:50:40 PM
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In most cases, change the product or return the money. Even if the BIOS was flashed, tested on personal experience. I got my money back

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July 24, 2019, 06:13:24 PM
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I recommend not RMAing cards for fans.

I recommend busting the power supply side instead.

A lot more work to check the bios when the card doesn't power.
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July 24, 2019, 09:30:54 PM
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I recommend not RMAing cards for fans.

I recommend busting the power supply side instead.

A lot more work to check the bios when the card doesn't power.

I agree with you that you shouldn't RMA it for something simple as a dead fan because you can just simply re-oil the bearing yourself or buy a new fan on Aliexpress and swap it out. Since you have to pay for the shipping for the RMA, the cost will be equal so in this case you are better off just buying a fan rather than going thru the warranty process.

I wouldn't recommend damaging the GPU however. These days GPUs rarely have exploding MOSFET or Capacitors and if you do it on purpose they would know very easily and you would get blacklisted since its highly illegal doing so.

These RX 470's are so cheap these days that if one is completely dead just buy another one for like $75 on eBay. Not worth going thru this huge hassle.

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July 30, 2019, 08:13:11 AM
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Why do some manufacteur's list BIOS's to download and flash on their website then.

Take a look at this,
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RX570-O4G-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

Scroll and find

Version - 2017/05/09
1.42 MBytes

Quiet BIOS for ROG-STRIX-RX570



Since its listed on their website you obviously are allowed to flash the bios, and most people save a backup so they flash back the original bios instead anything goes wrong.

So I don't think its right for them to void warranties due to a simple bios flash.

my cards doesnt have such option Sad
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July 30, 2019, 08:16:17 AM
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for real? beacuse fan was failing you send it RMA? Didnt you earn few bucks with mining to buy a new few dollar fan.

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July 30, 2019, 08:40:33 AM
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for real? beacuse fan was failing you send it RMA? Didnt you earn few bucks with mining to buy a new few dollar fan.
if you scratch that screw, you void the warranty.

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October 03, 2019, 05:39:02 PM
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Before sending in, flash the stock bios, verify the PPID in the bios (hex editor) and VGA-Information to be same as on the sticker. No need to change the checksum, the PPID is outside of the checksummed space.
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October 05, 2019, 08:17:16 PM
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for real? beacuse fan was failing you send it RMA? Didnt you earn few bucks with mining to buy a new few dollar fan.

It depends on the profitability. During the days of making $5/day/GPU like at the beginning of Jan 2018 if I had a fan fail I would just try and reoil the bearings, if that didn't work then I would just take off the fan shroud and put in a case fan or 2. Since you will lose too much money waiting for the RMA to arrive.

If it's right now, I would just RMA it to save myself the headache. Especially if you will void the warranty by removing the headsink to get to the fans.

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January 08, 2021, 11:51:31 AM
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Let's put it this way, u are pretty much right about that they have some kind of SN in bios, but it is called a little bit different, it is called PPID, and Asus use it to detect any kinda of bios change on card or any kind of modification of bios in any way, when u are here, send me a message and i will explain u what can u do about it.

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