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July 04, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot the most batshit crazy US-made regulation from lobbies:

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July 04, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
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The Trade Commission is not regulation, it's... the Trade Commission. 

Regulations are... well... regulations.  Like this...

http://www.polluterwatch.com/blog/big-oil-front-group-poured-millions-lobby-against-fracking-regulation

http://www.smh.com.au/business/stockbrokers-to-lobby-politicians-in-battle-against-tougher-regulations-20110627-1gnen.html

http://crooksandliars.com/2008/09/22/mccain-campaign-manager-paid-millions-to-lobby-against-regulation-on-behalf-of-fannie-freddie

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2010/03/articles/lobbying/cruise-industry-spent-400000-last-quarter-lobbying-against-safety-environmental-regulations/

http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/04/08/how-the-war-against-the-epa-has-helped-lead-to-a-budget-showdown/

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/management/article6605643.ece

http://info.babymilkaction.org/update/update42page6

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/tabcorp-warns-against-regulation/story-fn7j19iv-1226067360330

http://conservationalabama.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/resolution-against-regulation-of-greenhouse-gases-passes/

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July 04, 2011, 03:31:56 PM
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Animal ID Act, Premises ID Act.

How many Big Pharma Lobbyists have successfully gotten harmful drugs onto the market at the expense of current safe alternatives *cough* Aspartame *cough*.

How many times have we seen Lobbyists go after Alternative Health/Nutrition Suppliments to have them taken off the market or removing their ability advertised publicly their benefits.

A few of many many examples.

That doesn't explain why they constantly lobby against regulation.  Can you cite me some regulations that big business has actually lobbied FOR?
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July 04, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
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Animal ID Act, Premises ID Act.

How many Big Pharma Lobbyists have successfully gotten harmful drugs onto the market at the expense of current safe alternatives *cough* Aspartame *cough*.

How many times have we seen Lobbyists go after Alternative Health/Nutrition Suppliments to have them taken off the market or removing their ability advertised publicly their benefits.

A few of many many examples.

That doesn't explain why they constantly lobby against regulation.  Can you cite me some regulations that big business has actually lobbied FOR?

Actually you've got it backwards.  Big Pharm and the like lobby to PREVENT regulation that would keep stuff like Aspartame out of foods.  The EU told big business to go pound sand and now stuff like chemical food coloring and Aspartame are banned or restricted over there.  
http://naturalpainreliefforfibromyalgia.com/312

The oh so business friendly US would never dream of establishing regulations that would remove harmful items from food, so we get Red #40 and Aspartame while the EU gets beet juice and cane sugar.


Of course businesses will occasionally lobby to directly shut down the competition, but that's a rare day (as your total lack of citations shows).  However, lobbying AGAINST regulation designed to protect the consumer is a daily occurence and is what lobbiests primarily exist for.

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July 04, 2011, 04:14:23 PM
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Considering that Big Pharma produced Aspartame and would never lobby to regulate it other than to increase its use I can only deduce you lack an understanding of the underlying concepts we are discussing.  I see no further use discussing the matter with you and I will stick to responding to other posters.

Feel free to look up the history of Aspartame, its health effects, and its path into the houses of almost every American Family. 

Done.

"Actually you've got it backwards.  Big Pharm and the like lobby to PREVENT regulation that would keep stuff like Aspartame out of foods"

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July 04, 2011, 04:54:36 PM
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Considering that Big Pharma produced Aspartame and would never lobby to regulate it other than to increase its use I can only deduce you lack an understanding of the underlying concepts we are discussing.  I see no further use discussing the matter with you and I will stick to responding to other posters.

Feel free to look up the history of Aspartame, its health effects, and its path into the houses of almost every American Family.  

Done.

"Actually you've got it backwards.  Big Pharm and the like lobby to PREVENT regulation that would keep stuff like Aspartame out of foods"




I guess you lack reading comprehension because you said exactly what I just said and made it sound like you're arguing against me.  Key words bolded.

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