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July 01, 2013, 04:52:49 AM
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Is it juts a define that easily could be changed?

In case it isn't clear from what everyone has already said:

The hard part isn't the changing of the computer program.  That is indeed pretty much a simple matter of changing some defined values and recompiling.

The hard part is convincing everyone else that they should use your new code.

Anybody who continues to use the old code (or any new code that continues to support the original rules), will reject any block that you create or relay.  Therefore your extra coins won't make it into their bitcoin system.  Instead you will fork the blockchain and have a new type of crypto-currency that you will try to call "bitcoin", but that the users of the original "bitcoin" will refuse to recognize as "bitcoin".  If you can't convince anyone to use your new code, then it will be useless since only your wallet will recognize it as valid.  If you do manage to pick up some followers, then there will be a competing crypto-currency, and in time the better system will win.
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July 01, 2013, 04:55:58 AM
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If LTC keeps gaining popularity, you can consider it all one big group of 21 million + 84 million.

i dont think you understand how markets work... at the most basic level

How is the statement wrong if LTC does exactly what BTC does and stores start accepting it?

All the pipe-dreams of $100K BTC spot if 50% of the global black market accepts BTC would be reduced.  Atlantis & gox will just be the beginning.

LTC solves faster...that is one leg up already.
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July 01, 2013, 05:04:50 AM
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i dont think you understand how markets work... at the most basic level
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LTC solves faster...that is one leg up already.
...or for that matter how bitcoin and litecoin work.
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July 01, 2013, 05:05:44 AM
Last edit: July 01, 2013, 05:37:22 PM by DeathAndTaxes
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How is the statement wrong if LTC does exactly what BTC does and stores start accepting it?

Because LTC doesn't do "exactly" what BTC does.  Does every store, exchange, merchant, and user which has, uses, or accepts BTC also have, use, or accept LTC?  Does LTC has the same security against a 51% attack (exactly the same security)?

If not then LTC utility is not the same as BTC.  It may have utility but it isn't an identical replacement.  The concept is called fungibility.  Gold for example is a good commodity money and diamonds are not because all pure gold is identical however diamonds (or other precious stones) vary in value significantly based on size, shape, color, etc.   All Bitcoins are identical.  There aren't good Bitcoins or bad Bitcoins.  There are Bitcoins which are slow to confirm and Bitcoins that are fast to confirm.  All Bitcoins are equally vulnerable to unconfirmed double spend or 51% attack. 

While BTC & LTC may have similar properties they aren't fungible.  The value of LTC money supply may indirectly affect BTC exchange rate but BTC will retain its own valuation much like Silver and Gold retain unique valuations.  Gold and Silver are both precious metals, have similar properties and have similar uses.  Gold however is valued about 50x as high.  Under your logic this shouldn't have happened.  The price of gold should fall and silver should rise to reach an equilibrium with silver at say $300 per ounce for all precious metals (Gold, Silver, Platinum, or Paladium your choice).
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July 01, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
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changing bitcoin rules means creating a fork
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July 01, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
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If you want to know how difficult it is, try imagening this:

There are 1 million people and your task is convincing over 0.5 million of them to take 90% of their dollars and throw them into a big fire.
That's how difficult it is to make this change.
(the dollars in this scenario must still be considered as valuable ;p)
Wrong, you don't have to convince the 51%!

The new coin would be like Litecoin: it would work without "51%" of something.

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it's 50%+1 hard.  (it's majorly hard)
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