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August 30, 2019, 06:52:56 PM
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Chainalysis has done some research about the origin of mixed coins:

The problem is, they didn't say "only a small percentage of mixed coins are illegal." They just said 8.1% are stolen coins.

I'm not sure why you're obsessing about Chainalysis' wording. It's very easy to deduce that "only a small percentage of mixed coins" have illicit origins based on the published data:

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8.1% stolen
2.7% darknet markets

The other categories being exchanges, other mixers, mining pools, gambling services, coin generation, and unnamed services.

Are you saying that 10.8% is a large percentage? What would you call the other 89.2%? I guess we can let people decide for themselves. Either way, the myth that mixers are only used by criminals has been debunked.

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August 30, 2019, 06:59:43 PM
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Do you really have a problem with people freely buying and selling drugs? Who are they hurting?

Ah nobody, they are nice guys. I got this image from Google search "traficantes rio" (drug dealers Rio de janeiro)



You guys are all distorting what I said, saying that if I think mixing services helping criminals is not something nice, so I am in favor to reversible transactions , censorship, I am also against mixers , and many others absurds I read here like "what's wrong with drug dealers?"

But that's ok, I am done here, just couldn't let this about drug dealers with no answer.

I am a drug user, but I am against those criminals and I will not defend them.

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August 31, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
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Chainalysis has done some research about the origin of mixed coins:

The problem is, they didn't say "only a small percentage of mixed coins are illegal." They just said 8.1% are stolen coins.

I'm not sure why you're obsessing about Chainalysis' wording. It's very easy to deduce that "only a small percentage of mixed coins" have illicit origins based on the published data:

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8.1% stolen
2.7% darknet markets

That's your take on their findings, not theirs. Their take would infer the exact opposite if you go by the wording they used on their slides.

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August 31, 2019, 06:04:11 PM
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Do you really have a problem with people freely buying and selling drugs? Who are they hurting?

Ah nobody, they are nice guys. I got this image from Google search "traficantes rio" (drug dealers Rio de janeiro)

those look like street dealers/gangsters. i'm pretty sure they aren't representative of darknet market vendors. one of the primary features of darknet markets is they remove the need to deal with street-level criminals!

for example, this guy was arrested on his way to an international beard competition for selling drugs on dream market. he seems a lot more representative of the DNM scene to me:


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August 31, 2019, 07:09:36 PM
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I'm not sure why you're obsessing about Chainalysis' wording. It's very easy to deduce that "only a small percentage of mixed coins" have illicit origins based on the published data:

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8.1% stolen
2.7% darknet markets

That's your take on their findings, not theirs. Their take would infer the exact opposite if you go by the wording they used on their slides.

That's my take, and it's the correct one. Wink

The important thing is what the data says. You're just hand-waving and trying to convince everyone to ignore the data Chainalysis published. I wonder why that could be?


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September 01, 2019, 06:33:10 AM
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That's my take, and it's the correct one. Wink

The size of ego of some of the people on this site is utterly breathtaking.

The important thing is what the data says. You're just hand-waving and trying to convince everyone to ignore the data Chainalysis published. I wonder why that could be?



This is a pretty stupid thing to say. I could say the _exact_ same thing about you. You are drawing your own conclusions that favor your own economic interest. The data says exactly what it says. It does not say anything about the % of "illegal" bitcoin. You are assuming that none of the funds coming from

exchanges
other mixers
unnamed services

have illicit origins, which is a giant, careless leap in logic that happens to be extremely convenient for your signature campaign income.

I wonder why that could be?

In your instance its extremely clear what motivates you to draw your conclusions. In mine, not so much. Care to explain how I stand to benefit here?

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October 07, 2019, 03:50:06 AM
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I honestly don't believe this research. With so many scams and hacks going around crypto and add those illegal trades of drug and other stuff, mixers is always their way to go. It should not even be below 20% but should 35%-40% because just like in recent studies, there were billions of money that were stolen in cryptocurrency and they have used mixers to protect themselves.
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