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February 08, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
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Yeah, I don't think people should be 'shamed' in some way just for not dishing out merit. It's their choice whether they want to or not so there shouldn't be a table of these people, especially when it will just be populated by inactive users. Their merit will decrease anyway, but there's more important things to be thinking of right now like adding more merit sources and giving more merit to those who have shown they can dish it out well.

I agree to this completely.  And if I remember correctly, the admin mentioned that for merit sources, there smerits will decay after a month. So they need not be miser with merits and that is sufficient.
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February 08, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
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The actual thing that made me sick that people giving Merit to Bounty thread Managers (Every body knows, actual spam problem and fake account problem arose due to bounty section, I will suggest we should ban merit on bounty section).

What the hell is going on, you give me payment of bounty, I will merit you

Totally agreed. That guys should get their tongues out of bounty managers' arses and stop freaking others out. When they're giving their merit to bounty managers, bounty managers are totally not goin' to spend that merit anywhere. They're just creating a bounty thread and sometimes answering the letters. That's a dead end for merit been spent there but not to "like" a really ironic or helpful post.
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February 08, 2018, 04:21:52 PM
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 When they're giving their merit to bounty managers, bounty managers are totally not goin' to spend that merit anywhere. They're just creating a bounty thread and sometimes answering the letters. That's a dead end for merit been spent there but not to "like" a really ironic or helpful post.

Of course the bounty managers will spend their sMerits. They go to alts, and their favourite spammers so that they can create bigger signatures.

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February 08, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
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Of course the bounty managers will spend their sMerits. They go to alts, and their favourite spammers so that they can create bigger signatures.

I doubt they are going to put alts in the system, they can be easily caught. but for spammers ... well that has a sense.  Smiley
then that means the spammers won't use their sMerit
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February 08, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
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Nothing against the OP, but posts like these and especially threads where shitposters/farmers (et. al.) complain about the system are just further enforcing my conservative stance. There is no, and there should be no, obligation to do anything[2].

Thanks. Actually, I can get on board with this stance - that there should be no obligation for how one uses their merit - and therefore there should also be no penalty for those that drop 50 merit on one person, one post, regardless of constructive activity.

What I'm really against is the inconsistent application of a policy. And allowing people to hoard but chastising them for how they spend would be incredibly inconsistent.



The ones who are "not fulfilling their side of the transaction" are the ones who award merit to members who have abandoned the forum - Satoshi and the HODLer for example, this blocks the creation of new sMerit.

The author of the I AM HODLING thread was last active on January 27, 2018. Sooo, GameKyuubi is still active.



It's great to see a lot of opinion on this thread.
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February 08, 2018, 05:05:21 PM
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The author of the I AM HODLING thread was last active on January 27, 2018. Sooo, GameKyuubi is still active.


So he is - he made 11 posts in the last year - welcome back to him. Smiley

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February 08, 2018, 05:15:22 PM
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Should those that have sent very few to no merits to people be known?

If we want the merit system to be used as intended the people who are hoarding their merit should be made public.

The algorithm would have to be different from the list of top merit spenders, I'm sure Theymos and team could easily create the most appropriate relationship. However I propose it include some or all of the following:

  • Lowest merit sent in relation to merit received (including the original issuance)
  • OR lowest merit set in relation to current merit score
  • Exclude Newbies, Jr. Members, and Members
  • EDIT - Only add accounts for consideration if they've been active since the Merit System started

I know Theymos and crew are considering decaying the merit at some point, but this list would be an appropriate metric to add to merit stats and could help gauge if/when any decaying rule should be applied.

You have some great points. I've been able to get a small amount of merit in a short time by writing insightful posts. However, I see most merit being given to newbies from legendary members and merit sources. I don't think this is just because they HAVE merit to give, but because at legendary you are more invested in the quality of the forum itself.

I think most members - full members see Jr. members as competition and so they don't merit them. I think this is unavoidable, but won't make a big impact overall.

I do understand the feeling of wanting to hoard your merit. I saw this great infographic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834641.0 and wanted to merit, but didn't have enough, so I left a post instead. I got a merit and for a minute I thought "I'll hold on to this"...but then I realized I was just being crazy and part of the problem. I think other people will have this same epiphany, some sooner, some later.

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