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December 02, 2013, 04:33:12 AM
Last edit: December 03, 2013, 05:23:07 AM by dominicwin
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Not sure what to do, but I have a client who is now claiming his account was hacked and is messaging me from an alternative account to send his amazon code to his alt account when the amazon code has already been emptied and sent to his original account. Hacking was sure convenient. Also why have multiple aged accounts in use??? I think he is trying to get me to pay up extra funds to keep a clean reputation.

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December 02, 2013, 08:04:45 AM
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Not sure what to do, but I have a client who is now claiming his account was hacked and is messaging me from an alternative account to send his amazon code to his alt account when the amazon code has already been emptied and sent to his original account. Hacking was sure convenient. Also why have multiple aged accounts in use??? I think he is trying to get me to pay up extra funds to keep a clean reputation.

His lack of account security is not your concern. It's like someone going back to a shop to get his money back after the item he bought was stolen from his house.
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December 02, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
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Absolutely do not play along

This has all the makings of a shakedown

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December 02, 2013, 09:05:27 AM
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Most website have this in their ToS.

You understand and agree that you are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your User ID and Password and agree not to provide them to any other person (as a precaution, xxxxx recommends changing your login credentials periodically). You specifically agree that you are responsible for any actions entered through the Site by you or others who obtain access through you using your User ID and Password. You agree that xxxxx is not responsible for any damages or losses resulting from any breach of security caused by your failure and/or the failure of other persons who obtain access through you to maintain the confidentiality of your User ID and Password. You agree to notify xxxxxx immediately if you suspect that your User ID and/or Password has been lost or stolen or that an unauthorized person has obtained access to the Service using your User ID and Password.


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December 03, 2013, 03:54:04 AM
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Hi bitcointalk users fine my account was not hacked, during the man in the middle scare i changed my password & forgot it :/  so after toiling for a few hours today i remembered my security question answer. so im sorry now i see him slandering my name & while i dont care i dont see when im gonna get my amazon gift code so heres the entire deals with pms spread between this account & my other backup/upcoming site account.



lets start when i first delt with this user


when he was running his black friday deal.

Now through Friday, Bitcoin Black Friday. Amazon Codes 10% OFF. Offer Expires at 11:59PM on Friday



oooh this looks great, but maybe a scam so i look over his feedback looks great everything done fast so lets get a test


Hi i would like to do a quick 10$ test  and why 3 confirmations ?

Amazon card? three confirmations is to ensure BTC is received prior to fulfilling your order.



Alright, 0.007414btc

Payment address: 18j1a46tTR8NUfwe5rjfVREj6nULkaJgXu





Would have sent this sooner. PM me next time you send payment instead of posting in my thread which doesn't notify me.

amazon code $10
Z5UQ-NANHV3-V5KP


ok woop that was great code worked was added nice so i ask him for a 840$ card & he says currently im over my daily limit blah blah i over him some methods that one might circumvent that gfyt, masking card(dynamic prepaid virtual credit card). he says no, but tomorrow the limit will be reset. so nighty night tomorrow


im not trying to seem impatient, but you seem to be someone who trying to start trading bitcoin on exchange(im guessing mtgox) given the 3 confirmations and dont feel like waiting for a wire to go through so if you wanted a way to get some coins faster Smiley

I might not be online by the time the limit is lifted. Doesn't matter what site you order them on unfortunately because its the same company that issues the cards. They somehow share info it seems between amazon, gyft, etc.





are you still active ?  im looking to send you that 0.6608 for the 840$ amazon gift card Smiley


Just heading out to ship these packages out before shipping deadlines today.

I've created your address for this order:

1GWJ3tA2FQKHbisx6hCfFfBMeYzWgwYQ5W




then a few hours later get these 2 msgs

logged on from my phone, traffic and lines are terrible. Will buy the gc as soon as I get home.




phone freaked out. Just sending it again. logged on from my phone, traffic and lines are terrible. Will buy the gc as soon as I get home.




ok so i figure what maybe a few hours later all get my code and be a happy jew getting to celebrate my hanukkah present to myself a server & a few other items with.


next day internet & cant get any service. roads are pretty shitty & just spend the day programming & playing gta 5.   ok @ 9am internet back on wooooooh gc has to be in my inbox i mean he had a whole day check it nothing :/   so i pm him  & get this


Sorry I didn't send a longer message last night apart from the code itself since I was messaging from the phone. Feel free to leave me some trust for this transaction too, and I'll do the same for you. You know how to reach me for future transactions.



 wat Huh   so i look at my inbox for 30 seconds & check any possible place that he could of sent it dont find it go into scammer alert mode & post derogatory things about op.

so raged out of my mind and paranoid i change my password   1 hour later no word from op auto logged out & cant remember.


so i remember that i set up a backup account for a service i was gonna launch

send op this

HI dominicwin you havent sent the code maybe somethings wrong with your phone or your scamming me now i would like my code for 840$.


my old account uhnonamiss has been hacked and i can no longer access it so please send the code to alexisblack@live.com as seen here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352622.msg3774710#msg3774710  i own that email and its linked to this old account of mine.       your last msg to me invloved you asking me for feedback and that you were sorry for not sending anything, but the code.  the account was hijacked this morning after you sent the last msg. please dont be a faget i will leave feedback from this account once i get my code thank you.



   


op of course sends me this


hey there, is there a way you can prove it is you. Because you made the transaction public in the thread prior to the account hackings. I'm not at a computer now so forgive me if I'm missing the proof, but I will have the code once I get home this evening. And it seems you are correct about not receiving the code because I don't see it in my sent box. Confused because you posted from the old account in my thread today.






wow thats weird kinda contradicts what you posted here &


yay ive most likely been scammed woop  tee doo havent got my 840$ amazon gc & so unless his phone fucked up and  timed out and he didnt send it then please send it to me i need this for server parts. :/

Emptied amazon code, using Alt account: "coinsandcoins" claiming "uhnonamiss" has been hacked..... Your a bad egg buddy.




for proof send op this


ok thanks was really worried made you a screencast showing that i own this account, own the email address alexisblack@live.com and that i made a public deal with theskydiver to send me paypal funds for 0.01 btc the transaction email will be shown and most importantly that i own the wallet which sent .6608 to 1GWJ3tA2FQKHbisx6hCfFfBMeYzWgwYQ5W      



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0nJyt2gqd8&feature=youtu.be



sorry for the music they wouldn't let just have it be silent & that was the least annoying music they had Tongue



op sends me his timezone

& these 2 msgs


I'm very confused now, because the amazon code has been emptied.





& this


And my entire outbox sent folder is deleted too, which is even more confusing.



send op msg i think you've been hacked



get this back


Are we all hacked in some way on this forum?!? First thing I thought when I checked the amazon code to see if the funds were still there and there weren't was you were trying to get more money out of me. Is there a reason why you have two accounts active? That's what threw me off.


reply:  asking him if he saw the video &


this account is reserved for a site im launching in the future(im a lazy programmer)  & the other one is my main one which i use personaly. this is the first time iver used this account in a few months. i though  haveing a active account for the site would allow be a good idea , but maybe not.  i might change the site name, but do you think coinandcoins bitcoin exchange  sounds good :lol:
   


for good faith i sent  him this &



amazon account history



now op makes comment about my name & gives me this


I think I believe you. Just don't know what to think because I've never dealt with hacking ever before. I've never been in any way even remotely involved in a hacking situation. This place just seems to keep getting hacked.
 


now i reply saying he could try to contact his credit card company.  & ask him where we go from here he  replys:

so where do we go from here ?

I'm trying to figure that out right now.
 

& gives me this


I will say this, anything that can be redeemed by reading my PM's I am no longer using the forum for that. Codes will only be delivered by email, and other payment methods cant be hacked thankfully to a hackers advantage.




we go on about amazons policy on chargebacks regarding giftcards send him this


yes, but it was bought with a credit card and you can charge back anything.

now when am i gonna get my gc ? as this is how its went i send money for 10$ gc gets 20 mins after 3 confirmations, send money for 840$ told will be back tonight never shows up waits till 1 am(dhst) or 4 am your time. next day internet out and roads closed cant go to cyber cafe. this morning log in & see nothing then a few hours later get msg that it was sent via mobile & checks pm's emails franticaly checks for anything that it could have been sent to. gets timed out trys pw doesnt work trys security question doesnet work.


pms seller & is told he was hacked and the card has been spent. now i trusted you with the commodity money & have so far gotten nothing i need to buy server parts & spent the only money that i could set aside to do so. now you have my coins and they are most lilkely sitting nice and cozzy in a wallet or exchange. now after you contact the credit card company it might be a slight fight but you'll get your money back. i have fullfilled my part & have nothing, but countless thoughts of why the hell didnt i use escrow.  




then op sends me this



I don't know. I need to look into that chargeback situation in the morning. And I need to figure out this whole hacking situation and see if theres a way to prove your other account is hacked and stolen by someone else. Might need to contact an admin about that.




soooooo  judge for your self & i will be happy to show you fine gentlemen of the internet how the other 2 giftcards were bought &  and answer any questions you may have Cheesy

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