[Group Buy] 200 gh/s in stock now USA only, arrives in 5-7 days.

[TerraHasher]

Well guys, i figured i would take a shot at a group buy for the Visionman Prospector 200 GH/s miner. I just got mine today, and gave it a shot to call the sales rep in California to see if i could get us a group discount, and after an hour of negotiating this is what i got.

$4,650 Shipping included, USA only on the delivery.

They have units in stock in California but to buy those units are full price, the minimum order for the group buy price is 20 units, and they will ship direct from Hong Kong 5-7 days to your front door.

I do not want to hold any money from anyone, and don't want to deal with a ton of different payment types and conversions. So i have decided NOT to take any money until the 20 units are sold. He did say i could get a little better discount if i was able to get an order for 50. but i am not sure we will even get 20 with the amount of trolls and kiddies that think mining today is all about ROI in 3 months and have absolutely 0 idea of what bitcoin is really about.

So for now, through the next week, i am just going to collect names of people who want to buy one or more units. If we can get 20 spoken for, we can discuss what you all think is fair and safe as a means of payment. Please message me if you want to order one. Full product details can be found here. http://visionman-btc.com/collections/all/products/prospector-200-bitcoin-miner


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On a closing note, if your one of those idiots who thinks everything BTC is about ROI in a short amount of time, please feel free to firmly plant your face into your palm and refrain from posting in this thread.

[bjwimer]

Salesman: Hey I got this shiny hammer for 3$ want one?  It can hammer 200 nails an hour.
Hammerbuyer: but that guy over there is selling a hammer just as good for 2$.
Salesman: PFFT if you only care about how much you are spending vs how many nails you can get hammered then you know nothing about the hammer/nail initiative and you should just bow your head in shame.

[TerraHasher]

Salesman: Hey I got this shiny hammer for 3$ want one?  It can hammer 200 nails an hour.
Hammerbuyer: but that guy over there is selling a hammer just as good for 2$.
Salesman: PFFT if you only care about how much you are spending vs how many nails you can get hammered then you know nothing about the hammer/nail initiative and you should just bow your head in shame.

bjwimer, might i just ask what that has to do with the group buy at all? or is that just your poor attempt at trying to hijack a thread and win your troll badge?

[kmarei]

I think bjwimer is referring to the fact that you're asking for $4650, when there is another group buy for similar hardware (bitmain antminer) for only $2250.
And your comment about the ROI in 3 months or less. I hope you are aware that in less than 3 months time
The terra hash machines will be on the market, which means everyone with a gh/s machine will not be making money.

Call me a troll, but at least I'll be a troll with some money left in m pocket
vs not being a troll and trying to get my investment money back on my now useless 200gh/s machine

[TerraHasher]

I think bjwimer is referring to the fact that you're asking for $4650, when there is another group buy for similar hardware (bitmain antminer) for only $2250.
And your comment about the ROI in 3 months or less. I hope you are aware that in less than 3 months time
The terra hash machines will be on the market, which means everyone with a gh/s machine will not be making money.

Call me a troll, but at least I'll be a troll with some money left in m pocket
vs not being a troll and trying to get my investment money back on my now useless 200gh/s machine

No no kmarei, you made a statement, trolling is more so what bjwimer did. and i did not see the antminer group buy. if it is pre-order thats why i barley glanced at it. because like you said, in 3 months time the Diff. will be mad. ( i have been mining for 5 years i am aware how it works )

and my statement about ROI is in reference to the bit-kiddies and all their crying about "what a rip off, i will never make my money back in the next 3 months, this company, or that company is a rip off crap. They think they are geniuses because they can reuse a phrase that they saw in another thread and not know what it means. When someone with a brain makes a reference to ROI with a piece of hardware we are Referring to GH/s per $. And we are the ones who are smart enough to pay cash for our hardware, not be the guys who in 2016 are crying about the $100,000 miner we bought in 2013 with bitcoin. (like the pizza).

When the idiot patrol starts ranting about ROI, they are talking about A getting the bitcoin back that they spent on the hardware ( MORONS ) or B making that instant 3 month or less profit, like that is the per-requisite for a good investment.

5 years ago, maybe a little less, i spent $7,000 on my first GPU rig. Bitcoin was worth about a nickle to a quarter a piece, and every last part of that machine i built died before i made that $7,000 mark. until this past October. then, whamo, instant overnight millionaire. these dumb kids are all about OOooOOooOOoo Bitcoin, i can quit my job and get rich in a few months.

Anyways, if the antminer thing is instant delivery non pre-order, hell i might have to just kill this thread and buy two of those then. If it isa pre-order, hell i might just buy 3 more prospectors because i will still generate more coin per dollar spend with them over waiting on antminers. guess i need to look into it. 

[bjwimer]

Salesman: Hey I got this shiny hammer for 3$ want one?  It can hammer 200 nails an hour.
Hammerbuyer: but that guy over there is selling a hammer just as good for 2$.
Salesman: PFFT if you only care about how much you are spending vs how many nails you can get hammered then you know nothing about the hammer/nail initiative and you should just bow your head in shame.

bjwimer, might i just ask what that has to do with the group buy at all? or is that just your poor attempt at trying to hijack a thread and win your troll badge?

You come in a group buy to try and save us money... then you are "nice" enough to say we don't know anything about what bitcoin means if we would rather make ROI sooner than later.   Your "group buy" is still more expensive than a single buy for roughly the same device (that is delivering today).  If you call someone a troll or kiddie just because they want to make money, then you deserve one of those said trolls or kiddies to walk in here to point out your group buy isn't as good or groupy as you think it is.   And my post was made by two professional actors to get my point across more succinctly.

[gigica viteazu`]

Anyways, if the antminer thing is instant delivery non pre-order, hell i might have to just kill this thread and buy two of those then. If it isa pre-order, hell i might just buy 3 more prospectors because i will still generate more coin per dollar spend with them over waiting on antminers. guess i need to look into it.  

i received my 2 ant miners on 19.dec.2013 at 13:44 according to UPS.com... so no preorder

[kmarei]

I think bjwimer is referring to the fact that you're asking for $4650, when there is another group buy for similar hardware (bitmain antminer) for only $2250.
And your comment about the ROI in 3 months or less. I hope you are aware that in less than 3 months time
The terra hash machines will be on the market, which means everyone with a gh/s machine will not be making money.

Call me a troll, but at least I'll be a troll with some money left in m pocket
vs not being a troll and trying to get my investment money back on my now useless 200gh/s machine

No no kmarei, you made a statement, trolling is more so what bjwimer did. and i did not see the antminer group buy. if it is pre-order thats why i barley glanced at it. because like you said, in 3 months time the Diff. will be mad. ( i have been mining for 5 years i am aware how it works )

and my statement about ROI is in reference to the bit-kiddies and all their crying about "what a rip off, i will never make my money back in the next 3 months, this company, or that company is a rip off crap. They think they are geniuses because they can reuse a phrase that they saw in another thread and not know what it means. When someone with a brain makes a reference to ROI with a piece of hardware we are Referring to GH/s per $. And we are the ones who are smart enough to pay cash for our hardware, not be the guys who in 2016 are crying about the $100,000 miner we bought in 2013 with bitcoin. (like the pizza).

When the idiot patrol starts ranting about ROI, they are talking about A getting the bitcoin back that they spent on the hardware ( MORONS ) or B making that instant 3 month or less profit, like that is the per-requisite for a good investment.

5 years ago, maybe a little less, i spent $7,000 on my first GPU rig. Bitcoin was worth about a nickle to a quarter a piece, and every last part of that machine i built died before i made that $7,000 mark. until this past October. then, whamo, instant overnight millionaire. these dumb kids are all about OOooOOooOOoo Bitcoin, i can quit my job and get rich in a few months.

Anyways, if the antminer thing is instant delivery non pre-order, hell i might have to just kill this thread and buy two of those then. If it isa pre-order, hell i might just buy 3 more prospectors because i will still generate more coin per dollar spend with them over waiting on antminers. guess i need to look into it. 

So you're saying it was bad idea to quit my day job?
Uh oh

No the antminer is not a pre-order
You pay today and they ship jan 4th, so you'll have it around the 8th or 9th
This is the 3rd group buy I think, and gb1 and gb2 both went well

[TerraHasher]

Hey kmarie, thanks for the info, hunting it down now to order a few. Bjwimer, not saying everyone, just s select few.

[bjwimer]

Hey kmarie, thanks for the info, hunting it down now to order a few. Bjwimer, not saying everyone, just s select few.

I know the select few.  Just saw the post of the guy that wants ROI within a month.  I understand where you are coming from on that note.  I bought mine here.  Since you are in USA as well should be just as fast.

http://ninjatech.org/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=54