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December 30, 2013, 10:10:13 AM
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Why would anybody want/need approval from Goldman Sachs ... haven't they overtly subverted the US legislative system and destroyed vast tracts of the economy in their wanton lust for power over others and insanely greedy, short-sighted financial rapings?

Yes, let's welcome the scourge of the planet to bitcoin .... wtf?

Because Goldman is good, not morally good of course, but good at what they do. They saw the subprime crisis coming and was able to make billions by trading against the market. Many of us believe that a systematic crisis will eventually befall on the old system, but if anyone is able to time it and trade to profit from it, it's probably GS.

Wouldn't it better to welcome the people that are morally good AND good at making money?

If anyone is able to corrupt Bitcoin to the core it is Goldman Sachs and their fellow travellers ... Silk Road will look tame by comparison ... these guys are bad news on so many levels.

Edit: it should be a good test of Bitcoin's trust no-one properties ... Wink

I am confident it can't kill Bitcoin, so if it's to do anything it will be for the positive, or futile.

And we can't stop anyone from getting involved either, so the best thing to do is to use GS as an indicator.

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December 30, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
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Hey guys, this is not good or bad news, it is just a trivial bulletin...

A Goldman Sachs board member (director) joints the board of "Circle Internet Financial",
a startup company who offers simple payment services for businesses and consumers.

No big deal... Actually, I don't see this to be of great help to the bitcoin community,
She probably just want to learn more about bitcoins by being on the board,
rather than to help the new start-up  Embarrassed

Exactly. She is there to learn on behalf of GS, so they don't get lost behind with this bitcoin thing.

If you believe GS can just destroy bitcoin at a whim, I really don't why you are invested in such a flimsy idea as bitcoin Wink
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December 30, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
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Hey guys, this is not good or bad news, it is just a trivial bulletin...

A Goldman Sachs board member (director) joints the board of "Circle Internet Financial",
a startup company who offers simple payment services for businesses and consumers.

No big deal... Actually, I don't see this to be of great help to the bitcoin community,
She probably just want to learn more about bitcoins by being on the board,
rather than to help the new start-up  Embarrassed

Exactly. She is there to learn on behalf of GS, so they don't get lost behind with this bitcoin thing.

If you believe GS can just destroy bitcoin at a whim, I really don't why you are invested in such a flimsy idea as bitcoin Wink
Precisely. GS cannot destroy Bitcoin, and I am sure they are going to be profiting wildly from it. However, GS has the power to influence the shape of government response/legislation, and the more they are invested, the more they have an incentive to do so.

In what way they will want to influence the legislation of Bitcoin remains to be seen. But we know that regulation cannot stop Bitcoin. However, legislation can be a tool to affect short-term price movements creating good buy/sell opportunities.
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December 30, 2013, 03:25:15 PM
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Just to be clear, I accept that all of the usual bad actors in the legacy financial world will be involved with Bitcoin at some point. This however doesn't mean that I'll be running to them to manage my Bitcoins in any way. Shouldn't be a problem for me personally, the only real tragedy will be the clueless newbies who see the legacy "bridge" as the only safe way to use Bitcoin.

I can't help those people, they were the same ones who no doubt yelled "ponzi" when they first read about Bitcoin in the first place, and in a way, they deserve to pay for their ignorance.

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December 30, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
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Well, GS will certainly be trying their best to have some say in BTC going forward now, because there is money to be made in it.  They have their hands in everything all the way up...

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December 31, 2013, 03:01:25 AM
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Well, GS will certainly be trying their best to have some say in BTC going forward now, because there is money to be made in it.  They have their hands in everything all the way up...

How much have they invested to date? One board member ....

Certainly interesting to see if they really invest in bitcoin in  a meaningful way.
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December 31, 2013, 04:27:54 AM
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Well, GS will certainly be trying their best to have some say in BTC going forward now, because there is money to be made in it.  They have their hands in everything all the way up...

How much have they invested to date? One board member ....

Certainly interesting to see if they really invest in bitcoin in  a meaningful way.

IMO - we need retailers onboard before Wall St invests.  There needs to be a viable use for BTC, outside just investment banking.  These guys are used to trading shares for the biggest consumer driven companies in the world.  I think we need to see a deeper consumer base that uses BTC for online transactions before we'll get much investment depth from Wall St.

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December 31, 2013, 07:38:10 AM
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I read an article ages ago, saying that workers in Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs have been trading bitcoins very early on in mid 2012. Are they trading privately or for the bank? I don't know... but both banks should have known about bitcoins from the very beginning. My guess is they are still trading bitcoins now with a minute fraction of their funds on hand, but already enough to dictate bitcoins prices to some degree.

Original article (news back in mid 2012):
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/01/traders-bitcoin-idUSL6E8ET5K620120401

"Workers at Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs in London and New York have been visiting online Bitcoin exchanges as often as 30 times a day, according to documents seen by Reuters"

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December 31, 2013, 07:48:38 AM
Last edit: November 29, 2014, 06:31:36 PM by medUSA
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There needs to be a viable use for BTC ....
we need to see a deeper consumer base that uses BTC for online transactions

Yes, I agree! For bitcoins to grow organically, we need to be able to buy a wider range of goods, from more online retailers to create a sustainable transactional demand for bitcoins.
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