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January 02, 2014, 03:56:57 AM
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Bitcoin Value Continues to Puzzle Economists
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January 02, 2014, 04:53:11 AM
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Silly! It should be basic. Supply and demand.

Actually I think the real value comes when the brick and mortar shops start really taking the coin, but right now the investers that are willing to turn in thier dollars for bitcois are driving the market which kinda does make it a bubble.

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January 02, 2014, 08:08:59 AM
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Most economists don't understand Bitcoins.
Most economists are bought and paid for by bankers.
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January 02, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
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Let's just hope it keeps on climbing.
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January 02, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
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thx for the link  Smiley
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January 02, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
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Reading the comments is eye opening in that the common guy/gal out there really doesn't realize the utility of Bitcoin today.  These articles always consider Bitcoin in the light of a commodity or equities, but Bitcoin isn't soybeans or stock certificates.  Crypto currencies are...well, crypto currencies; not gold/silver/platinum/diamons/etc., they are their own thing.  And will be as big as the internet.

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January 02, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
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Its funny how when an economist is asked why the value of bitcoins is disputed, they just seem to point to other economists for answers. :-P

In any case, anything only has value as long as people want it. For example, gold has value because people covet it, and its supply is limited. Same is the case with every other "precious" metal out there.

If one fine day, the people of the world decide that they don't want or like gold, then the value of gold will drop drastically. When, eventually, the world supply of gold runs out, the value of gold will rise as people want more of it, and the only source is institutions which have hoarded it.

On similar lines, bitcoins have value because its advantages over traditional money make people want it. Since we know that the supply is limited to 21M, its value will rise as more and more people want it and as long as demand is more than supply.

As more and more real-world businesses start getting involved with bitcoins and other virtual currency, more and more people will get interested in it. As that happens, its value will continue to rise.

PS: I'm not an economist. They are brilliant people who understand the world of money in a way that I cannot even comprehend at this time. What I've stated in this post is just my understanding of how things are.
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January 02, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
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On the downside a regular business can't price anything in bitcoins because of the deflationary nature of it. They would need to reevaluate the price every several hours.

I believe stable national currencies more or less grow with the economy with  some inflation.

I'm not an economist either.

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January 02, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
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On the downside a regular business can't price anything in bitcoins because of the deflationary nature of it. They would need to reevaluate the price every several hours.

I believe stable national currencies more or less grow with the economy with  some inflation.

I'm not an economist either.

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Even the value of standard currency fluctuates throughout the day, to a certain extent. I think we need to remember that virtual currency is at a very primitive stage. As its use becomes more widespread, and as more and more governments begin to accept its presence, the value of bitcoins will also stabilize.

As far as re-evaluating the product prices is concerned, businesses can easily set a price point for the day, rather than evaluating it every hour. They might end up over-charging or under-charging at different points of the day, but at the end of the day, it will all average out. As far as the customer is concerned, it really is up to them whether they choose to pay by bitcoins or by standard currency.

Now, we are also talking about bitcoins in its current scenario, where its value only exists in the form of certain number of dollars or something. Businesses would need to reevaluate bitcoin value periodically because at the end of the day they have to convert it to dollars, to pay their suppliers and others. Imagine if their suppliers started accepting bitcoins. In such a case, there would be no need to monitor virtual currency values against standard currency, since they no longer have need to convert it to any other form.

As the use of virtual currency becomes more widespread, the need to convert them to standard currency will reduce, and stability in bitcoin prices will increase.

It really is no different from businesses indulging in international currency. If a store accepts dollars, euros, rupees, and other currencies, they too have to re-evaluate their prices periodically in accordance with international forex rates. This is done because they ultimately bank in one currency, and have to convert all funds to that currency. If they didn't need to do that; if their suppliers started accepting orders in various currencies, then they could fix their prices for those currencies, and not need to consult forex rates.

If every business in the world started accepting bitcoins, then the dependency on standard currency would decrease, and it would become a true worldwide currency. I believe that this is bound to happen eventually.

I believe this is how standard currency was too, in its initial stages.
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January 02, 2014, 06:49:18 PM
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I think bitcoin is more like a precious metal rather than umm... rubles. It's kind of like a limited resource and the price is likely to keep going up (if people keep putting their trust in it). So pricing daily transactions, let alone financial products like mortgages would be extremely difficult.

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January 02, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
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On the downside a regular business can't price anything in bitcoins because of the deflationary nature of it. They would need to reevaluate the price every several hours.

Well there was something invented in the 1940s that can do that for you, called programmable digital computers, you may have heard of them.

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January 02, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
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Bitcoin prices may puzzle everyone but for me it is crystal clear that bitcoin prices shall escalate upwards and may even touch $2000 in 2014. And again economist will be puzzled to see the huge rise in prices of bitcoin so let them be confused. 
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January 02, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
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On the downside a regular business can't price anything in bitcoins because of the deflationary nature of it. They would need to reevaluate the price every several hours.

Well there was something invented in the 1940s that can do that for you, called programmable digital computers, you may have heard of them.

I mean if you go to trader joes and want to get some cheap wine for 2.99 what would it be in bitcoin - "0.003746 and even less by the time you get to the counter, unless it's more"? I heard of them 'puters before. There're up to no good.
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January 02, 2014, 08:59:15 PM
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On the downside a regular business can't price anything in bitcoins because of the deflationary nature of it. They would need to reevaluate the price every several hours.

Well there was something invented in the 1940s that can do that for you, called programmable digital computers, you may have heard of them.

I mean if you go to trader joes and want to get some cheap wine for 2.99 what would it be in bitcoin - "0.003746 and even less by the time you get to the counter, unless it's more"? I heard of them 'puters before. There're up to no good.

Most shops these days have a computer which has some accounting / inventory management software running on it. It can be easily modified to show the correct BTC or LTC value at that instance.
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