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Author Topic: Have you heard about the Bitcoin "Kill Switch"? It's a doozy!  (Read 3063 times)
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February 15, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
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Jesus, talk about solving problems that doesn't exist.

What will be the next, mind control programs?

Backbone network taps 'did not exist' either...until Snowden released the NSA docs last year.  Until then they were paranoid fantasies.  I remember when 4 or 5 undersea cables went down in rapid succession maybe 5 or 6 years ago.  I personally thought it entirely likely that this was a result of taps going in.  Of course the hypothesis was roundly derided as some sort of paranoid fantasy.

Fortunately (or not) it has never really bothered me to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist'.  Time has proven again and again that it has resulted in a more accurate view of the world.  In fact I only every really heard of and became interested in Bitcoin itself because of looney-tunes whacko interpretations of how monetary systems worked.  Right or wrong, my outlying views on the subject have directly resulted in a huge increase in my financial statement if nothing else.  Predating Bitcoin in fact.


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February 15, 2014, 10:21:25 PM
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Yeah, this is really scary

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February 15, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
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Jesus, talk about solving problems that doesn't exist.

What will be the next, mind control programs?

Backbone network taps 'did not exist' either...until Snowden released the NSA docs last year.  Until then they were paranoid fantasies.  I remember when 4 or 5 undersea cables went down in rapid succession maybe 5 or 6 years ago.  I personally thought it entirely likely that this was a result of taps going in.  Of course the hypothesis was roundly derided as some sort of paranoid fantasy.

Fortunately (or not) it has never really bothered me to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist'.  Time has proven again and again that it has resulted in a more accurate view of the world.  In fact I only every really heard of and became interested in Bitcoin itself because of looney-tunes whacko interpretations of how monetary systems worked.  Right or wrong, my outlying views on the subject have directly resulted in a huge increase in my financial statement if nothing else.  Predating Bitcoin in fact.


I'm not quite sure what your take is, but I admit there is a few use cases where such a thing would be useful, like when an old woman is being robbed of her smartphone with btc on it. If there was some kind of massive scale abuse though, we would have bigger problems that couldn't be solved by turning off phones willy-nilly.

That said, I completely agree on getting open hardware going. I have been arguing that for quite some time myself.
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February 15, 2014, 10:46:34 PM
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these days people dont steal phones to make phonecalls. they do it to sell the scrap minerals that are inside the phone. so a kill switch wont drop the price of the material in the phone

Er, no.  Most phones are stolen to sell on the black market like any other stolen goods.  A chap i know works pubs and clubs in London will be offered half dozen every night in west end.  Down in South London double that.  The component cost of an iphone are $200*, the minerals are a small fraction of that.  worth at least $100+ as a snide phone.

* have a search at bill of materials.  Most enlightening the cost vs retail price, and the ramp up for higher specs.  No wonder Apple make so much money, they have huge margins.
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February 15, 2014, 10:51:12 PM
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Jesus, talk about solving problems that doesn't exist.

What will be the next, mind control programs?
Next? They've been seriously working on it for the last fifty years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
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February 15, 2014, 11:21:16 PM
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Jesus, talk about solving problems that doesn't exist.

What will be the next, mind control programs?
Next? They've been seriously working on it for the last fifty years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Yea I have heard rumors about it too, but I couldn't really believe it until a saw this video some time ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_swOstGaI
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February 15, 2014, 11:28:39 PM
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Jesus, talk about solving problems that doesn't exist.

What will be the next, mind control programs?
Next? They've been seriously working on it for the last fifty years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

This project was popular during war... and I supose US soldiers know something about.
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February 16, 2014, 01:34:35 PM
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Smartphone Kill Switch Could Become Federal Law

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On Thursday, US Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Mazie Hirono (D-HI) introduced national legislation to require a way to disable smartphones remotely. The goal is to deter theft and protect consumers, but this defense against thieves might come with greater vulnerability to hackers, according to a mobile industry trade group.

WITH CELL PHONE THEFTS SURGING, KLOBUCHAR, MIKULSKI, BLUMENTHAL, HIRONO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE A “KILL SWITCH” ON SMARTPHONES TO DETER THIEVES, HELP PROTECT CONSUMERS [from themselves.]

The way I see it, this comes from the school of never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste, in this case, blame thieves who've taken advantage of idiot consumers to advance an agenda.

Make no mistake, next are all internet-connectable devices, the same devices currently used to remit payment freely, i.e. Bitcoin.

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It's already here.

read this:

http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone

I'm not aware of any commercial phone available where the baseband processor OS is opensource.

That's the reason why everyone mustn't install any wallet software on their smarthphone. Once you gain control of the baseband processor you gain root on main OS. 

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February 16, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
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Smartphone Kill Switch Could Become Federal Law

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On Thursday, US Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Mazie Hirono (D-HI) introduced national legislation to require a way to disable smartphones remotely. The goal is to deter theft and protect consumers, but this defense against thieves might come with greater vulnerability to hackers, according to a mobile industry trade group.

WITH CELL PHONE THEFTS SURGING, KLOBUCHAR, MIKULSKI, BLUMENTHAL, HIRONO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE A “KILL SWITCH” ON SMARTPHONES TO DETER THIEVES, HELP PROTECT CONSUMERS [from themselves.]

The way I see it, this comes from the school of never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste, in this case, blame thieves who've taken advantage of idiot consumers to advance an agenda.

Make no mistake, next are all internet-connectable devices, the same devices currently used to remit payment freely, i.e. Bitcoin.

~TMIBTCITW

It's already here.

read this:

http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone

I'm not aware of any commercial phone available where the baseband processor OS is opensource.

That's the reason why everyone mustn't install any wallet software on their smarthphone. Once you gain control of the baseband processor you gain root on main OS. 

as with all "All in or no-thing"
all open source device or just part of it which is still nothing ie not enough
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