Bitcoin Forum
May 24, 2024, 07:12:17 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 [3]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Are bitcoiners better people than the current rich?  (Read 2448 times)
Wary
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 798
Merit: 1000


Who's there?


View Profile
October 02, 2014, 02:15:23 AM
 #41

What is the (future) value of bitcoin financial services? I'm not sure how to measure it, but there must be some ways to estimate it. For example, Austrians believe that  business cycles are caused by current financial system. If true, then value of new financial system should include cost of busts/depressions/stagnations it's preventing.  How much the dotcom crash did cost? How much the Great Depression did cost? And the following (and partly caused by it) WWII?

I don't think we need an in-depth analysis to show that the wealth creation due to bitcoin financial services will be dwarfed by the wealth represented by the monetary value of bitcoin. Let me try another route.

The bitcoin financial services are the arteries through which bitcoin monetary value flows. Yes, it takes capital - human and resources - to create these arteries. In the process of this creation, the value of the resulting financial services will -- if intelligently implemented -- exceed the value of the human and resources capital that went into their creation. IOW, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. It is this difference that is the wealth created by the bitcoin financial services. This wealth will be earned and enjoyed by the people that create these services.

But all this is for naught if there is not a much greater pool of bitcoin, that will flow through these arteries.

You seem to assume that value must be if not equal, but at least close to costs. Which is not the case. If a multimillion jet cannot fly it's value may fall 100-fold, to the price of scrap metal. But we can recover original value by replacing a 10-cents fuse.

Our financial system and our whole economy is such non-flying jet. It's very inefficient and wasteful.
And Bitcoin is the 10-cents fuse that can fix the multimillion jet.

It can (partly, at least) fix our economy's inefficiency and thus increase it's total value. The total value of the whole world economy. And the value of bitcoin payment system should be measured by this increase, rather than by costs of creating it.

How can the value grow if amount of "tangible goods, services, resources, and other capital" is not increased?  By more efficient allocation of the same resources. By decreasing waste of this resources. And by faster growth of these resources. If your capital can produce 6% instead of 3%, it's the same as having two capitals for the price of one.

This is the new wealth created by the bitcoin and the major part of this wealth will not be in the hands of early adopters, because worth of all resources is much bigger than amount of all money. Therefore the benefits of bitcoins will be enjoyed by the whole population, rather than by small circle of hodlers. That's exactly why people will switch to bitcoin: because it gives them some value. Every single person that'll switch to bitcoin, will do it because of an extra value that that bitcoin will give to her.

tl;dr; Bitcoin is 10-cents fuse that fixes multimillion jet. It is (mostly) new wealth given to all, rather than old wealth taken by few.

Fairplay medal of dnaleor's trading simulator. Smiley
zimmah
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005



View Profile
October 02, 2014, 02:44:10 AM
 #42

I don't think all of them are better but there are a few differences between bitcoiners and bankers

Bankers can .create infinite money with their banking scam and this gives them power to control even governments. Bitcoiners can't do that. Once you're out of bitcoin you have to earn yourself some new ones.

Early bitcoiners are mostly very techie and are not afraid of taking risks.

Bitcoiners mostly want more freedom and equal rights/chances for everyone, unlike bankers who don't even service large parts of the world, and demand high fees for poor people. And worst of all, bankers have their own privileges.

So I'd say the new rich will be better in general, but not everyone will be a nice person.
vancsj
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 85
Merit: 10


View Profile
October 02, 2014, 03:37:25 AM
 #43

What do you mean by 'BETTER', mentally or in the other ways?

RIC solo mining with XPT miner @ zjuer.net:10034
sifter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 574
Merit: 500


CoinBooster Rep


View Profile
October 03, 2014, 05:28:24 PM
 #44



I hasten to add that there is nothing inherently immoral about yachts, cocaine, nor hookers.



The last part seems rather dubious to me. Wink

Hookers aren't immoral at all -.-

CoinBooster.io - Earn up to 67mil satoshi per day. Claim every 5 minutes. NO POP UPS! HIGH ROI
Bitcointalk Official Thread
Pages: « 1 2 [3]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!