Buy Bitcoins - $5.00 Starter Packs

[TenDrawBTC]

We make it easy for you to buy a small amount of bitcoins.
We sell at the exact exchange rate - no service charge.
Payment locks off the amount of bitcoins you will receive

*http://drawbtc.com/bitcoin-starter-pack/*

You receive bitcoins within 1 - 3 days - this can take up to a week - we make sure payments are legitimate.
We use *https://selz.com* to transfer payments.

All payments are fully encrypted, SSL secure, and PCI compliant.
We have a zero tolerance attitude on scammers.

Quantity is limited, but you can check back daily for more stock.

Best Regards,

DrawBTC

[juergenschneider]

Payments 1 to 3 days or up to a week. Legitimate, yeah right.
Heed the red flags here and stay safe guys. And use escrow.

[TenDrawBTC]

You realize scammers can reverse payments, this is why the 1 - 3 day delay is in place.

[juergenschneider]

You realize scammers can reverse payments, this is why the 1 - 3 day delay is in place.

Then why not offer irreversible payment methods instead? Given the volatility and uncertainties in this market, delivery that long can compromise the coin's value. If the markets dip on delivery day, then one ends up with potentially $2 or $3 worth of coins for a payment of $5.

[TenDrawBTC]

I believe they are irreversible but my payments are transferred once a week, so I guess it's just to make sure.
Also when someone purchases it locks the bitcoin price at the time of their purchase.

Do you recommend escrow?

[gogodr]

You realize scammers can reverse payments, this is why the 1 - 3 day delay is in place.

Then why not offer irreversible payment methods instead? Given the volatility and uncertainties in this market, delivery that long can compromise the coin's value. If the markets dip on delivery day, then one ends up with potentially $2 or $3 worth of coins for a payment of $5.

Can you name some irreversible payment methods?
I think I'll give it a try, if it is a scam then it is just 5$ lost. I think we need a company willing to slowly build trust and reputation.
If companies learn to treat bitcoin as virtual assets and declare taxes on the transactions the way it should be, they can dispute the chargebacks.

edit:
I'm sorry I can not risk my cc information if the website says secured by norton but when I try to access it with https it says that the server does not match.
"You attempted to reach drawbtc.com, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as www.hnpacific.com" and the actual SSL is from StartCom Ltd. probably FreeSSL
edit2: actually the website through https doesn't work at all.

I can risk 5$, but I wont risk my whole bank account :/

[TenDrawBTC]

I do the best I can. I am only selling small amounts, to gain trust.
I make bitcoins daily, this is why I created these starter packs to sell.

[TenDrawBTC]

Can you name some irreversible payment methods?
I think I'll give it a try, if it is a scam then it is just 5$ lost. I think we need a company willing to slowly build trust and reputation.
If companies learn to treat bitcoin as virtual assets and declare taxes on the transactions the way it should be, they can dispute the chargebacks.

edit:
I'm sorry I can not risk my cc information if the website says secured by norton but when I try to access it with https it says that the server does not match.
"You attempted to reach drawbtc.com, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as www.hnpacific.com" and the actual SSL is from StartCom Ltd. probably FreeSSL
edit2: actually the website through https doesn't work at all.

I can risk 5$, but I wont risk my whole bank account :/

You realize my website does not need a SSL certificate. The payment is transferred on behalf of https://selz.com

*http://help.selz.com/customer/portal/articles/1139915*

Please check your information before you start degrading my service.

Thanks

[gogodr]

Can you name some irreversible payment methods?
I think I'll give it a try, if it is a scam then it is just 5$ lost. I think we need a company willing to slowly build trust and reputation.
If companies learn to treat bitcoin as virtual assets and declare taxes on the transactions the way it should be, they can dispute the chargebacks.

edit:
I'm sorry I can not risk my cc information if the website says secured by norton but when I try to access it with https it says that the server does not match.
"You attempted to reach drawbtc.com, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as www.hnpacific.com" and the actual SSL is from StartCom Ltd. probably FreeSSL
edit2: actually the website through https doesn't work at all.

I can risk 5$, but I wont risk my whole bank account :/

You realize the website does not have SSL certificate. It doesn't need one, the payment is transfered on behalf of selz.com

*http://help.selz.com/customer/portal/articles/1139915*

Please check your information before you start degrading my service.

Thanks

I'm sorry, but your server does serve an SSL certificate that doesn't correspond with your website. That's what got me confused.
The fact that it says norton secured usually means that you have a norton verified SSL certificate, which you don't have.
https://selz.com does have it (their SSL issuer is http://www.geotrust.com/ which is owned by symantec, I suppose they can issue certificates under Norton's brand)
Still, you are managing sensible information without actual encryption, so your website is not safe at all.

If there is a sniffer in between my connection and your server without a proper https encryption I wouldn't be able to notice and my cc account could get compromised for that.
This are serious issues you should check before starting to manage sensible information like credit cards.
You might have a good intention here, I'm sure you do. But you are being a little too careless with security.

To make it simple: There is nothing for me to trust that your website doesn't collect data or that it is not being hacked right now.

[TenDrawBTC]

Thanks for your response. All of your details are submitted on selz.com.
If someone were to sniff my website they would find nothing valuable of use if that makes sense.

I will look into other factors.

[gogodr]

Getting an SSL certificate is a good start. You can get one for free or pay for brand.
(its basically paying for brand, but issuers can and will stop issuing the certificate if you do shady things with issuing companies like norton.)
(you can get one of the free ones and they pretty much just put you on a bad people list if you do anything wrong.)
Also its an extra degree of security to set up and https server to serve and manage the data. That data is encrypted and harder to decrypt if sniffed.
without it, even if your website is just a bridge between the third party merchan service and my information, that data can be collected, even if not by you it could be collected by hackers nearby your clients. That's why https is a big deal when dealing with sensible information.

I hope you find this useful, and I'm really looking forward to you implementing security on your website.
I'm from Peru and buying btc with VISA or Paypal is almost impossible for me. I can't just buy BTC from coinbase like people with USA bank accounts can.