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December 20, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
Last edit: December 20, 2017, 05:25:35 PM by camerlangue
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Epilogue :  We are a group of scientists,community members who believe in a free decentralized and community governed ledger with no central identity or organization ,we witnessed first hand the problems of Tezos as Cryptocurrency centralized in a "foundation" and "company" we decided to launch our own fork of Tezos without any boundaries or centralized governance the community should have power ,Tezos ICO crowdfund is now worth more than 1 Billion $ giving such ammount to a a centralized group of people is against anything the community and decentralized systems stand for .


The legal hassles of Tezos prevents it's development and proves that the "ICO" operation is nothing but a centralized form of governance .

Initiation:
Tezos Classic is 1:1 fork of Tezos but with no ICO and no "foundation" the operational detailed and whitepaper explaining the process will be released by January 1st 2018 .
Tezos Classic uses a hybrid PoW & PoS consensus model , TezosClassic coins [XTC] will be mintable for a certain block-time period once the complete cap of XTC is mined the protocol will move to a PoS consensus only model ,this makes it possible to avoid an "ICO" and mining power will be the only way to create XTC .


Governance:Code is law and proved Code is harder law,meaning that Smart Contract on the TezosClassic ledger are mathematically proven to be correct ,if for any reason a situation like the D.A.O hack is to happen only the community will decide what to do and not "us" or anybody else (Ethereum vs Ethereum Classic) .
Same situation for soft & hard forks only community can approve or reject a protocol update,preserving protocol rules this way assures that Tezos Classic will not be victim to it's own creators decision .
While all blockchains offer financial incentives for maintaining consensus on their ledgers, no blockchain has a robust on-chain mechanism that seamlessly amends the rules governing its protocol and rewards protocol development. As a result, first-generation blockchains empower de facto, centralized core development teams or miners to formulate design choices.
TezosClassic takes a fundamentally different approach by creating governance rules for stakeholders to approve of protocol upgrades that are then automatically deployed on the network. When a developer proposes a protocol upgrade, they can attach an invoice to be paid out to their address upon approval and inclusion of their upgrade. This approach provides a strong incentive for participation in the Tezos core development and further decentralizes the maintenance of the network. It compensates developers with tokens that have immediate value rather than forcing them to seek corporate sponsorships, foundation salaries, or work for Internet fame alone.
TezosClassic instantiates new technical innovations but also enforces types of constitutionalism through the use of formal proofs to mathematically verify that key properties are upheld over time. By allowing stakeholders to coordinate on-chain, the network also allows for the creation of bounties to implement specific features or discover bugs. Collectively, the network maintains the decentralized aspect of blockchains while introducing a mechanism to enable collective decision making. TezosClassic tokens not only power smart contracts in the network, but also allow votes on protocol amendments. The initial TezosClassic rollout is simple by design, but its self-amending nature means that the rules governing the network can be improved over time.

Funding: We believe that the "initial backers" situation of tezos where "tezzies" where distributed to "advisors" and "hedge funds  Grin" was unfair to the people,the team behind TezosClassic will rely on community donations only ,we hope that the community will understand this situation and provide donations for a successful continuation of TezosClassic development.

Specification :

 - Algorithm : Blake-256 + Scrypt
 - Cap : 48 Million XTC
 - Block Time : 90
 - Block reward : gradually increasing from 500
 

Roadmap :

  • 1st Jan 2018 :

 - TezosClassic Mainnet released
 - TezosClassic Wallet + Staking started
 - TezosClassic Website + Whitepaper
 
  • Q1 2018 :

 - TezosClassic governance rules and staking will be effectively operational
 - TezosClassic allocation to be burned .
 - Smart Contract Operational
 - TezosClassic Agreement Protocol

  • Q2 2018:

 - Observation of governance rules and continual development of node software and clients
 - Open Organization Developement : TezosClassic software will be developed by the community any new rule a.k.a (Tezos Classic Implementations Agreement) that are similar to Bitcoin B.I.P.S will be decided upon by the community for example if a software update is to be approved it requires overall community vote using TezosClassic own Governance system and can be reverted by this same system (Self-amending)



Links :
 - TezosClassic Github Mirror : https://github.com/camerlangue/tezosclassic (this a non updated mirror to the private repo )
 - TezosClassic Website : | soon |
 - TezosClassic Blog : | soon |
 - TezosClassic Point of Contact (temporary) : camerlangue

Upon successful donation campaign and release by 1st January  we will release a blogpost explaining more and updated roadmap .


Donation Address :

- Bitcoin : 1QLR5arC1E2sahQBuXBfeWmUW1nXLcu9As
- Ethereum : 0x9e28D955e8f56f1b055470A292068A79b12bF42c

Current Situation :

- The TezosClassic team has been secretly working on Tezos fork for one month now we decided that only if the community believes in us we shall follow with the release ,if we see an active community we assure you that we will be true to our decision and follow up with TezosClassic developement .

Help us bring an idea corrupted by financial incentive to life in a community governed world , XTC Team

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December 20, 2017, 04:15:43 PM
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UPDATE:
- Communication Channel Releases : Dec 28
- Community & Developement Update : Dec 29
We hope this will show that the idea of self-amending ledgers can be released with no controlling party .
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December 20, 2017, 04:49:03 PM
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This is s scam guys. I am from the community. This is not from us.

Why would we fork Tezos? Crazy.
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December 20, 2017, 04:55:42 PM
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Please note that this is scam
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December 20, 2017, 05:24:07 PM
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The community referred to isn't /r/Tezos or such we wouldn't like to mix up with those by community we mean the few people who recognized that Tezos is flawed in it's core and decided to start something different .
As to those who reefer to a scam, we are not asking for money but we are asking for the few who would to run nodes to do so ,we are completely separate from Tezos itself .
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December 20, 2017, 06:30:32 PM
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Then call it something else with no mention of Tezos. Don't ride on the Tezos bandwagon. It is dishonest. Like you said, you are not in any way part of Tezos.
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December 20, 2017, 07:55:55 PM
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This has gotten too far and needs to be stopped.
In the last couple of months we saw countless "forks" (mostly not the real ones, those idiots don't know how to fork a coin) and "airdrops" from suspicious projects, using respectable cryptocoins and token names to advertise their scams. We have now some 20 different "bitcoins" (maybe more idk).
The truth is, if you call your coin "Tacos classic", nobody would care about it. Probably seven people would sign up for airdrop and that's it. Game over. No easy money.
Why I think it's about money? Well, it always is. I am here for money. But I will not try to scam my fellow community members. I will try to outplay them trading coins on exchanges, fair and square. If they outplay me, well done, they deserve their money. But you, "Tacos Classic", all you deserve is disdain.
Your scheme is simple. Find a good name for the project, advertise it here, make people sign up for the airdrop, but keep most of the coins for yourselves. Make some development(or claim you did), so people, who didn't get the airdrop think they missed out. Get your coin listed on exchanges and dump it. Then move on, create new accounts here, and make a statement that "Tacos Classic" is flawed in it's core and you decided to start something different. Advertise a new coin, say "Tacos Cash" or whatever. And so on, over and over again.
More experienced community members would never fall for that, but we can see a massive influx of newbies. The need to be warned. If they want an airdrop, ok. But if they missed out, they should stay away from that shit. No easy money - scammers starve to death. That's what they deserve for making the industry looking bad.

Feel free to use that post anywhere you like. Copy/paste anywhere you see scammers advertising their forks and airdrops. People need to know.
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December 20, 2017, 08:35:13 PM
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I had to make an account for this one...
The point of TEZOS IS TO NEVER FORK.  THAT'S THE POINT OF SELF-GOVERNANCE.  Why don't you read the fucking white paper.  Also, for something to be classic, it has to be original.  Don't slap your fucking name on tezos, and call it original.  It's not only offensive to the devs, but to the community that's supported the devs through thick and thin to see all of our time, our monetary, and our mental investments pay off.  The fact that you even THOUGHT this would be a good idea is a fucking meme in itself.  So here's what I want you to do.  

Read this link here:
https://medium.com/@linda.xie/a-beginners-guide-to-tezos-c9618240183f

Now read this:
http://tlt.psu.edu/plagiarism/student-tutorial/why-plagiarism-is-wrong/

Now for the part where you put it all together:
Uninstall your current operating system, and go fuck off

Have a nice day!  Wink
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December 20, 2017, 09:06:18 PM
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so current Tezos owners have coins?

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December 20, 2017, 11:57:45 PM
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I'm here wondering, isn't this what crypto is all about.. freedom to contribute, and yes, to try out different approaches to community-driven blockchain projects? Why cant these Tezos 'fans' get this?
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December 21, 2017, 12:29:25 AM
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I think you should do a telegram group for us to discuss about the project.
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December 21, 2017, 12:53:25 AM
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Then call it something else with no mention of Tezos. Don't ride on the Tezos bandwagon. It is dishonest. Like you said, you are not in any way part of Tezos.

I agree with that. Since they are claiming that they're not part of Tezos, then, think of their own name instead.
Using Tezos coined to something else is like riding with their popularity.
I understand what they are aiming for or what they are pointing at. But if they don't like the Tezos' project, then, create something new.
But in the current scenario in crypto, that's one way of marketing their project. Remember e-tokens using famous altcoins as part of their ticker? You can't prevent them from using such names unless you have the trademark for that or some sort of legalities here will play.

This is not a scam as they are not compulsory asking money from the community but asking donations instead.
If the community really likes this project, then, maybe they can collect sufficient money to start with.
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December 21, 2017, 01:11:54 AM
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These guys didn't write the original TEZOS, so they are stealing TEZOS.
It's as simple as that. All they are doing is copying and pasting and
calling it their own. How much talent does that take ? Let's make
millions of dollars off the hard work and the efforts of the TEZOS
community by ripping them off, them take advantage of unsuspecting
investors who we will rip off as fast as we can when they invest in our
"NEW" coin. This should be illegal as hell and no exchange should
accept this coin if it ever sees the light of day.
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December 21, 2017, 12:49:50 PM
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These guys didn't write the original TEZOS, so they are stealing TEZOS.
It's as simple as that. All they are doing is copying and pasting and
calling it their own. How much talent does that take ? Let's make
millions of dollars off the hard work and the efforts of the TEZOS
community by ripping them off, them take advantage of unsuspecting
investors who we will rip off as fast as we can when they invest in our
"NEW" coin. This should be illegal as hell and no exchange should
accept this coin if it ever sees the light of day.
It's a classic story. Look at waves - everybody knows what it is, but who knows what is scorex?
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September 17, 2018, 07:42:43 PM
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These guys didn't write the original TEZOS, so they are stealing TEZOS.
It's as simple as that. All they are doing is copying and pasting and
calling it their own. How much talent does that take ? Let's make
millions of dollars off the hard work and the efforts of the TEZOS
community by ripping them off, them take advantage of unsuspecting
investors who we will rip off as fast as we can when they invest in our
"NEW" coin. This should be illegal as hell and no exchange should
accept this coin if it ever sees the light of day.
It's a classic story. Look at waves - everybody knows what it is, but who knows what is scorex?

TEZOS Mainnet launched today so, I guess that settles the issue for now...

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