Cleanup on isle 234 - Many (assumed) hacked accounts for sale

[vit05]

I do not think negative trust is enough in these situations. If you put a negative trust on a user saying that he sells KYC and documents that were stolen, and that user offers exactly that service, you're just attesting the quality of that service.

I believe that in these situations the mods must interfere. Trust negative or positive are not enough. And letting the forum become a market for selling stolen documents and other services that are illegal in any country can have serious implications for the forum.

[Pmalek]

What are you talking about?

Not sure what you are confused about. I don't think those type of threads should have any place on bitcointalk.

This sums it up pretty good:

...letting the forum become a market for selling stolen documents and other services that are illegal in any country can have serious implications for the forum.

[PrimeNumber7]

I PM’ed 10 of the first 11 OPs of the threads listed and the below is what I found:

One thread appears to be deleted, hence why I didn’t message him.

I received the below responses:

Hi,

I saw your thread selling accounts.

Before we discuss anything else, can you answer these questions for me:

Are they hacked?
Are they using a fake identity to get verified?
Was identity theft used to get the account verified?

Thanks.

Not hacked Account.
Stealth account

Contact us at
Telegram : @panelab
Or Skype

Hello. No, no hacking activities involved, it is not just the accounts, it is also documents. To ur second question. The documents are fully genuine, many use photoshop docs and ask for a small price, but my price is a bit high, surely u can understand why ,for example no UK citizens sell their docs and identity for a small price, which also answers your third question, the owners are completely aware that their docs is beeing used for only betting activity. I find eligible document owners, pay them about 70 percent of the total cost of the accout, and ask them to give me their id,selfie with id, and bill.

I hope i have addressed your concerns,
let me know what you think,
regards

They are created with real identity. They are not hacked account and each account has it own transaction histories. I can sell in bulk and single order.

Please let me know,

Thanks

The message I sent to all of them was:

Hi,

I saw your thread selling accounts.

Before we discuss anything else, can you answer these questions for me:

Are they hacked?
Are they using a fake identity to get verified?
Was identity theft used to get the account verified?

Thanks.

I was unable to message more than 10 people because of PMs hourly limitations and haven’t had the time to come back to message the rest.

The first guy claims he isn’t selling hacked accounts but doesn’t give an explanation required by the rules. The second person gave an explanation so I guess he is compliant with the rules. The third guy claims to not be selling hacked accounts, but doesn’t give an explanation and his ability to sell in “bulk” gives me specific reason to not believe him.

Even though the second guy appears compliant with the rules, I would be uncomfortable with these types of transactions occurring within my forum because even with the consent of the person whose identity is being used, laws are almost certainly being broken when the buyer uses the account and both the broker and buyer may be breaking laws by completing the transaction.

Here is the law regarding identity theft in CA and I believe even the second person that responded would be violating this law.

I didn’t receive any type of response from anyone else I messaged.