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May 19, 2019, 01:25:40 PM
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Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.
You can get tons of VPN for free on any platforms like android and Windows,just go to the market apps and type free VPN software then you will get some apps with premium services by paying for it.I am using HOXX and HOLA on my browsers and turbo VPN on my android so you also can check those free softwares.


If you are still using hola than you have not paid attention to previous post in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143987.msg51083969#msg51083969


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Image: According to the free VPN Hoxx’s privacy policy, “By using the Services, You acknowledge, consent and agree that we may collect, process, and use the information that you provide to us and that such information shall only be used by us or third parties…”

You  seriously need to read the below articles before you tell anybody to use Hola,Hoxx or turboVpn.

https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/free-vpns-are-not-safe-to-use/
https://www.vpnmentor.com/reviews/turbo-vpn/

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May 19, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
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I currently use Tunnelbear which charges around $60 per year for a yearly subscription and around $10/month for a monthly subscription, and the VPN works very well for what it is. Much better speed than what I've gotten on any free VPN, and there's decent customizeability in the software as well on Windows. I've tried using NordVPN on my computer as well, but it just never connected for me on my Windows desktop and I was never able to resolve the problem so I can't speak for how great Nord is, though they seem to have decent pricing for longer-term subscriptions from what I can see on their page right now.
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May 19, 2019, 02:06:18 PM
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I've just come across the fact that ProtonVPN have launched a free VPN. ProtonMail are pretty well regarded as being a very secure and privacy focused email provider, and it seems their VPN is getting similarly good reviews. The free VPN is subsidized by users paying for the fully functional VPN, but still provides unlimited data. It's main limitations are you can only use one device at a time, and you can only user servers in the US, Japan, or the Netherlands (the first being a 5-eyes country, the second in co-operation with 5-eyes, and the third a 9-eyes country, so not a great selection).

So while still inferior to a paid VPN, it seems to be miles ahead in terms of privacy and no-logging compared to other free VPNs. Might be an option for those who can't afford a paid VPN (although there are some very cheap good ones out there).

Note: I have never used ProtonVPN.
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May 19, 2019, 02:41:02 PM
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For what I know Nordvpn offers 3 dollars per month?
You are correct that that is their best deal at the moment. I suspect most of the VPN accounts being sold have been hacked, phished, or otherwise stolen. NordVPN allows 6 devices to be used at once on each account, so it is quite possible that someone who is only using it on two or three devices at once (computer, phone, tablet, for example) could have their username and password stolen, and have someone else logged in to a couple of more devices on their account without ever realising it.
Exactly. I applied many vpns before and some of those vpn are good as a hack for sim card here in my country. But all of those are just good for 1 account per device. It was a little expensive than nord it was $5. But I chose nord as my vpn. My family are using it also in downloading torrents.

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May 19, 2019, 04:27:24 PM
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From where I sit...good start is to install the latest release of openvpn client which, moreover, is free, and to find out UDP/TCP access packages pertaining to openvpn servers scattered all around the world, just google and you are on top.
I don't think you know what you are talking about.

There may be many servers running OpenVPN software, but OpenVPN is not a service that requires the user to use the OpenVPN client to connect, nor is it a service at all. Although the software allows for this, I am not aware of anyone publicly running an OpenVPN server for the purpose of allowing the public to connect.

Further, when using a VPN, you are relying on the reputation of the provider to not do bad things like keep logs or otherwise invade your privacy. Using a "random" VPN server will not allow you to do that because the "random" server will have no reputation.
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May 19, 2019, 05:21:35 PM
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I use a VPN all the time, and I can't recall the last time CF has blocked me, or even a specific time they ever blocked me. The only thing using a VPN has ever resulted in me getting blocked from is Netflix.

That also depends how website owner configure cloudflare. Most times, VPN and Tor user are required to solve reCAPTCHA many times (up to 20 times, while you only need to do it 1-2 times if you don't use VPN, Tor or public internet connection).

Few example :
https://airvpn.org/topic/23090-cloudflare-often-bans-my-ip-address/
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/19778/suddenly-cloudflare-captchas-everywhere
Yes, using TOR can be very annoying when it comes to having to complete the reCAPTCHA many times.

I personally use Private Internet Access (they are one of the first VPN providers to accept bitcoin), and have not had issues with CF reCAPTCHA, or with CF banning my (VPN) IP address. This includes websites that it was known were under a current DDoS attack. The threads you cited are only two examples out of billions of user experiences.
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If you are concerned about logs, and you are in a country with weak free speech protections, you can rent a VPS located in a country with strong free speech protections, and setup a private VPN server with OpenVPN. This will not guarantee absolute anonymity, and you will probably be uncovered if you are doing something harmful to other people. 

I'd avoid "Black box" solution if possible.
Do you care to elaborate why you don't like this?
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May 19, 2019, 06:06:22 PM
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I'd avoid "Black box" solution if possible.
Do you care to elaborate why you don't like this?

TLDR version : there's no way to verify VPN provider don't log your data.
That is actually always a problem.

What I was describing is actually installing (open source) software on a VPS you control/purchased, and connecting to said VPS. The datacenter where the VPS is housed, or the VPS provider could look at your VPS instance, and create logs, but I believe this risk is fairly low.
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May 19, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
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In past, whether i use Tor / VPN, i need fill 10-20 reCAPTCHA even to access this forum happen everyday and change IP or exit node many times just to access a website.
This is the bane of my life, but there are very few website which I need to access so desperately I'll complete 20 captchas. I'll quite happily look elsewhere long before I start disabling aspects of my security or privacy.

TLDR version : there's no way to verify VPN provider don't log your data.
True. There have been some VPN providers which have been subpoenaed (or their jurisdiction's equivalent) to supply logs, and have had to prove therefore that they had no logs to provide. This is obviously retrospective, and while a good metric to consider, just as in the world of finance, past performance doesn't guarantee future results.
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May 19, 2019, 10:40:55 PM
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With windscreenVPN you get 15gb a month. With traffic bear you get 500mb but another 500mb if you tweet for them once a month. You are limited to which countries you can use.
DO not trust free vpn they just crap and not safe.

You can get good VPN like cyberghost for $3 a month if you get a 3 year contract. I have a 3 years contract with them and they great.

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May 20, 2019, 03:37:31 AM
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Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.
You can get tons of VPN for free on any platforms like android and Windows,just go to the market apps and type free VPN software then you will get some apps with premium services by paying for it.I am using HOXX and HOLA on my browsers and turbo VPN on my android so you also can check those free softwares.


If you are still using hola than you have not paid attention to previous post in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143987.msg51083969#msg51083969


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Image: According to the free VPN Hoxx’s privacy policy, “By using the Services, You acknowledge, consent and agree that we may collect, process, and use the information that you provide to us and that such information shall only be used by us or third parties…”

You  seriously need to read the below articles before you tell anybody to use Hola,Hoxx or turboVpn.

https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/free-vpns-are-not-safe-to-use/
https://www.vpnmentor.com/reviews/turbo-vpn/

PS: Stop using them.




I did used them years ago bit not anymore,that is why I am not aware of their policy changes by the way thank you for letting me know.

Now I am using only the paid premium version of hotspot shield VPN which is actually pretty good VPN in my experience.

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May 20, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
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Now I am using only the paid premium version of hotspot shield VPN which is actually pretty good VPN in my experience.
There were some stories a couple of years ago that Hotspot shield was redirecting its VPN users via some third party partner websites, affiliates, and ad companies. It was also placing tracking cookies on their users as a way to serve them with targeted advertising, and also injecting JavaScript in to their users browsers. I don't know if they have since cleaned up their act, but I would be very careful about relying on Hotspot shield for any real privacy.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/07/hotspot_shield_deceives_with_false_privacy_promises_complaint_claims/
https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-group-accuses-hotspot-shield-of-snooping-on-web-traffic/
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May 20, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
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pissipon is free and very easy to use as well. I even downloaded spotify from it.
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May 20, 2019, 06:35:25 PM
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I think out of all option only proton VPN can be worth of look.

Whatever I researched, it is always against for using free VPN. Thanks all for the reply.
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