I don't understand this Ban Reason. Help is appreciated.

[Avea_ban]

Username:Aveatrex

Bitcointalk link profile:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=950474

Reason: Participating in an on-forum altcoin giveaway.

Can someone please explain the reason of my ban so I don't repeat the same thing next time? Thank you.

[TryNinja]

Reason: Participating in an on-forum altcoin giveaway.

Related to:

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.

Did you join any of these "giveaways"?

[Avea_ban]

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I don't remember joining any giveaway that paid me to post on this forum.The only bounties I'm participating in is PointPay signature campaign and the Youtube Campaign.

[actmyname]

I don't remember joining any giveaway that paid me to post on this forum.The only bounties I'm participating in is PointPay signature campaign and the Youtube Campaign.

Did they need a post on their thread for YouTube? How about the signature campaign? If they incentivized posting on their threads, then that is against the rules.Here's the relevant thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.msg37702167#msg37702167

Incentivizing posting within one or several threads via low effort tasks (e.g. signups or proof of participation for liking, following, subscribing, retweeting, tweeting a single tweet, joining a channel or group, etc.) is not allowed as it falls under the "no altcoin giveaways" rule (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103687.0)


Accepting signups or requiring proof of participation for tasks requiring substantial effort (e.g. signature campaign signups, weekly social media campaign reports, media (videos, images, articles, etc.) bounty signups, etc.) via a thread posted in Bounties (Altcoins) is allowed though.

EDIT: Obviously, participating in such giveaways is prohibited as well.

[Avea_ban]

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No,they didn't incentivize posting on their thread,you only post a report of the week and a proof of auth in the beginning.
Well I'm referring to this Youtube campaign where you do need to report your tasks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157663.0

Edit:Just saw your edited message. So If I understood well I'm not allowed to report my tasks (likes comments etc..) daily even if I'm incentivized to do these tasks but not incentivized to post in the thread?

Edit2: Kind of bizarre since it's not paid in altcoin but in BTC so the Youtube campaign is kind of irrelevent to the reason stated

[actmyname]

Edit:Just saw your edited message. So If I understood well I'm not allowed to report my tasks (likes comments etc..) daily even if I'm incentivized to do these tasks but not incentivized to post in the thread?

Those "likes" fall under the low-effort tasks.

I think you should just steer clear of anything that belongs to that. Consider the ban a warning. Most bounties correspond with the rules so it's not like you'll be short of any supply.Subscribing to the channel, liking the video, commenting, and liking comments are all tasks that are considered low-effort.


It's kind of subjective but there's a clear line between substantial effort and low-effort.

[Avea_ban]

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I can understand that. Then what is the good way for participating in this campaign if likes,comments etc are considered low effort tasks then the campaign shouldn't even exist...

[actmyname]

I can understand that. Then what is the good way for participating in this campaign if likes,comments etc are considered low effort tasks then the campaign shouldn't even exist...

Don't participate in the campaign.

It shouldn't exist. But moderators can't get to these campaign threads immediately, especially since there are so many. I'm not sure how he handles it but sometimes moderation won't start until a good couple days after a thread has started. And in that time, plenty of participants could enter.It's on you from now on to watch out: don't expect everything to align with the rules.


Just did a double-take and saw that the campaign was in BTC. This is kind of a weird one, because it's not really an altcoin giveaway. But it does promote zero-value posts where they could be submitted on an external page. So I'm not sure.

[TryNinja]

I can understand that. Then what is the good way for participating in this campaign if likes,comments etc are considered low effort tasks then the campaign shouldn't even exist...

Maybe they shouldn't make people post what they did in the thread? There are third-party apps/dashboards/sites that can easily track this (google spreadsheet + google forms, bountyhive, etc...). It's not like there is any reason why they need to incentive 50 new pages of "joining/week X report/etc" posts for every new campaign they create.

[Avea_ban]

I'll warn the campaign creator and the participants.I didn't know about all of this even if I already read the rules several times lol.Thank you guys for the efforts,appreciated.

[yahoo62278]

These kind of giveaways are what google forms can be utilized for, then there will be no posting on the forum. Doesn't matter if you warn others or not(currently you cannot warn others as you are serving a ban and therefor not allowed to post on the forum), some users are still ignorant and will ignore warnings and post anyways.

[mprep]

You were banned for participating in the BlockchainMediaGroup media campaign which required you to post on their ANN thread.

[Avea_ban]

You were banned for participating in the BlockchainMediaGroup media campaign which required you to post on their ANN thread.

Thank you for  clarifying. Locked.