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June 28, 2019, 05:59:48 PM
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I’m looking to assess the historical performance of various cryptocurrency trading strategies, and I’ve noticed most research is conducted using data from coinmarketcap. One possible issue is whether historical performance data is available for failed coins or coins that stopped trading. If we only observe the returns of coins that did well but not those that did poorly, then there is a major issue with selection bias and performance to a strategy that buys coins meeting ‘x’ criteria is likely to be overstated. Is there a way to get all tradable coins as of some specific date (e.g. year-end 2014) and follow their performance through some later date (e.g. present) including those that failed.

Background info: I’m a financial researcher and university professor who’s relatively new to working with crypto data. Any suggestions and recommendations are much appreciated.
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June 28, 2019, 06:17:16 PM
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Coinmarket gives you the opportunity to learn about new coins from the very beginning of their development. But on the Bitcointalk forum, you can also find a lot of information for studying the coin. But of course you should not forget about social networks. I already do not remember how I learned about cryptocurrencies. Maybe it was information on TV or advertising on some site. Also information about the coin can recommend your friends and colleagues.
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June 28, 2019, 06:55:38 PM
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Unfortunately, I do not know of such a resource. All I can offer is the same https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/. Here you can see the history (weekly snapshots) from April 28, 2013. This may help you a little. This may require a lot of work. It may make sense to contact the CMC developers. There may be suitable API.
But probably you have already seen it.

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June 28, 2019, 06:57:22 PM
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well you can always use wayback machine to check the top altcoins on coinmarketcap (although above comment has a good link) and other sites too for example.  Then see if they are still alive.  Very few of the 2013 shitcoins are still alive.  A lot have died, but have been "rebooted" in the 2017 hype also.
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June 28, 2019, 07:02:32 PM
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I do not think there is no authentic source available of dead or exit scam projects at the moment, i think some one has to compile this data with relation to dates and events but it will not be an easy task to complete.

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June 28, 2019, 08:33:00 PM
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Unfortunately, I do not know of such a resource. All I can offer is the same https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/. Here you can see the history (weekly snapshots) from April 28, 2013. This may help you a little. This may require a lot of work. It may make sense to contact the CMC developers. There may be suitable API.
But probably you have already seen it.

I think this might be one of the best available routes. I can’t guarantee that it includes everything, but it seems like it might. When I go to one of the historical snapshots it displays a list of coins ordered by market cap (e.g. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20141228/). As of the December 28, 2014 download the first 94 coins are listed in order of market cap, and then there is an additional ordered list starting with the 95th coin with the information shaded in gray. Any idea what this separation means? Some of the coins like Swarm (line 95) are listed as inactive and do not have full daily price histories but others like Omni (line 96) do. I’ll probably try to get in touch with someone from CMC, but if anyone here knows that’d be great.
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June 28, 2019, 09:42:31 PM
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The historical.snapshots of coinmarketcap is one of the best possible method to tract the performance of a coin or token, but one thing little disadvantage is that it does not cater all coins or tokens to those and which not yet listed on coinmarketcap.
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June 29, 2019, 06:54:41 AM
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Unfortunately, I do not know of such a resource. All I can offer is the same https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/. Here you can see the history (weekly snapshots) from April 28, 2013. This may help you a little. This may require a lot of work. It may make sense to contact the CMC developers. There may be suitable API.
But probably you have already seen it.

I think this might be one of the best available routes. I can’t guarantee that it includes everything, but it seems like it might. When I go to one of the historical snapshots it displays a list of coins ordered by market cap (e.g. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20141228/). As of the December 28, 2014 download the first 94 coins are listed in order of market cap, and then there is an additional ordered list starting with the 95th coin with the information shaded in gray. Any idea what this separation means? Some of the coins like Swarm (line 95) are listed as inactive and do not have full daily price histories but others like Omni (line 96) do. I’ll probably try to get in touch with someone from CMC, but if anyone here knows that’d be great.

as far as i know the grey ones indicate some sort of problem with the coin and its market which makes the data reported by coinmarketcap.com unreliable so they mark it grey to show that. for instance https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/win-win/#markets is one of the coins that is currently grey. it has price of 10 satoshi on  P2PB2B but 4 satoshi on Bitsane which indicates a >100% difference and the problem withe these markets/exchanges. sometimes it is the exchange itself releasing fake volume/price that makes the coin be excluded and a lot of other similar issues that i can't think of right now.

also if i may give you a suggestion, you might want to analyze prices in BTC instead of USD because it is more meaningful. 90% of the coins either don't have any USD market or if they have it doesn't have any volume. but CMC still reports the default values in USD and analyzing that is going to be misleading.

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July 12, 2019, 06:58:27 PM
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The coinmarketcap site gives you enough information about coins, but if you don’t have enough of this information, then you can find something about a concrete coin in this forum.


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July 12, 2019, 07:11:14 PM
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I’m looking to assess the historical performance of various cryptocurrency trading strategies, and I’ve noticed most research is conducted using data from coinmarketcap. One possible issue is whether historical performance data is available for failed coins or coins that stopped trading. If we only observe the returns of coins that did well but not those that did poorly, then there is a major issue with selection bias and performance to a strategy that buys coins meeting ‘x’ criteria is likely to be overstated. Is there a way to get all tradable coins as of some specific date (e.g. year-end 2014) and follow their performance through some later date (e.g. present) including those that failed.

Background info: I’m a financial researcher and university professor who’s relatively new to working with crypto data. Any suggestions and recommendations are much appreciated.
Besides CMC, you can use this website to update failed, exit scam projects: https://deadcoins.com. I have been using it for almost a year now and find it still works very well. This is a website contributed by the community.
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