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July 15, 2019, 04:40:21 AM
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Dear crypto community. I am a crypto-currency investor, I specialize in obscure altcoins which often require running a full node and downloading an entire blockchain.

What I am about to explain does not apply to every wallet, it is only something I have observed in certain wallets.

As we all know, bitcoin is an open source project, with the entire source code available at github. The altcoins are simply modified copies or forks of the bitcoin code. Many altcoins are forks of other altcoins, etc.

Certain wallets appear to simply stop functioning after a certain time, and will not function until the program is closed and started again.

I have been thinking about why this could be happening, and either the wallet malfunctions, or more likely it has been intentionally added. The only question was why?

So recently I have been attempting to mint a proof of stake coin called sprouts. Currently sprouts coin is traded on coinexchange.io and was cheap enough that I could afford a reasonable portion of the circulating supply, and could possibly be successful in minting.

However, it appears that this wallet simply stops functioning after an hour or so of running. It appears to be running, but will not download the blocks, just like some other coins. This has made it very difficult to download the blockchain, since I cannot just leave it running.

So I have been trying to figure out what sort of benefit this could provide, and today I think I have realized the answer. The wallet stops functioning in order to prevent anyone except the top wallet from staking any blocks, because the wallet becomes frozen before successfully minting. This also happens with some traditional proof of work coins, probably to make it more difficult to mine them.

The problem could be a problem on my end, perhaps my computer or internet are to blame.

What do you think? Has anyone else come across the frozen wallet issue? Thank you for your time.
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July 15, 2019, 04:46:42 AM
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Wallets (generally) help strengthen the coin’s network. It would be counterproductive for them to fail on a regular basis. You’re experiencing shitty programming, or a local configuration error/incompatibility.

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July 15, 2019, 06:45:04 AM
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I specialize in obscure altcoins

Obscure altcoins are usually coins in their infancy and/or with only one developer doing everything.
It's not uncommon to face bugs.

If it helps at all, I've seen in the past a PoS wallet that randomly stopped staking if there were not so many coins in the wallet.
One developer and strange bugs are a bad combination and needs effort from your side to pinpoint the problem. Or simply backup everything, delete everything, especially the chain data and start syncing again (usually this can be a good idea if a fork has happened).

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July 16, 2019, 10:03:02 PM
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Thanks for the response. I really like sprouts coin, I hope I can stake some.
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July 16, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
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well how about the obvious


you have :
a weak cpu
not enough ram
not a large ssd
a poor internet connection

If you have an i5 or better
If you are not cpu mining with it as you synch the wallet or any heavy duty cpu work you cpu end is good.

if you have 16gb ram and you are not doing lots of task with the pc
your ram end is good.

if you have a 500gb or big ssd that is 80 percent empty you are also good to go.

if you have a gigabyte switch and decent connectivity to the net you should be good.

if you are doing this with wifi  it is always a crapshoot

the list above covers your mechanical issues fairly well.

yeah some stuff is coded like shit
also some servers don't link to link to your node.  do you know how to add other nodes to your node?

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July 17, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
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Its been years since I've actually run an actual Bitcoin core wallet but I remember a few years back I was getting freezing issues also. From what I've heard they might of been resolved by now.

I am not referring to the staking or mining with the core wallet but just running the wallet just to send and receive coins. The issue is mostly from not having enough system RAM and an SSD. The CPU doesn't really play a role, it only plays a role in the initial sync. But after you get it sync'd and if you got an old regular HDD and low amount of ram, it will freeze when it tries to open the wallet.

This is why most use online wallets or wallets like Electrum these days.

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July 17, 2019, 06:26:59 AM
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Since you're talking about Sprouts coin's full node (and been following their [ANN] thread), there's nothing we can add but "it's a bug" or hardware issues.

I just want to mention this, have you already excluded the node to your Antivirus and Firewall?
Because this message isn't clear if you need to "register in the whitelist" of their network or your "security software" aka Antivirus/Firewall:
* It is recommended to register in the whitelist because it will depending on security software.

And the whole team and supporters consist of anime & cartoon characters, a neko~chan and two no-image~san:
Looks promising! No wonder bugs aren't fixed.

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September 27, 2019, 03:03:49 PM
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As mentioned above this is probably a hardware based problem on your end. What you're describing is familiar. Used to have the same results when running multiple wallets at once, and I'm talking a lot of different coin wallets.

If you suspect this is somehow coded in to these coins just take a look at the code or have someone else knowledgeable review for you.

 
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