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November 13, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
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I wonder how many of these posts would have been written if the poster wasnt part of a campaign of sorts.
If theymos decided to try out my experiment of a one-month signature ban, we would find out.
This will be really interesting to see. I hope he does this for some undeclared amount of time instead of saying a certain date to end.

Thinking out of the box if ever signatures are banned, how can you still show the signatures in your every post. Here is one idea in my mind.
After every post , display a screen shot of your signature image.





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November 13, 2019, 04:34:59 PM
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Thinking out of the box if ever signatures are banned, how can you still show the signatures in your every post. Here is one idea in my mind.
After every post , display a screen shot of your signature image.

That is not going to happen.

22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. [8]

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24. Advertisements (including signatures within the post area) in posts aren't allowed unless the post is in a thread you started and is really substantial and useful.[9][e]

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November 14, 2019, 01:51:34 PM
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~snip~

Thinking out of the box if ever signatures are banned, how can you still show the signatures in your every post. Here is one idea in my mind.
After every post , display a screen shot of your signature image.


I see you have a long way to go buddy :-D


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November 14, 2019, 03:02:05 PM
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How was this off-topic?
-snip-
Just because some of you are moderators doesn't mean you're not also spammers.

Cowards.
I'd argue that yours deserves to be on the thread, though it's a meta observation linked to the original content. Smiley
However, as I've posted above... rules are enforced at a moderator's discretion.

Also. Welsh has no jurisdiction over Meta. A Global Moderator must have deleted it.

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November 16, 2019, 12:00:41 PM
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When you find a meaningless post or spam that is off topic then report it to the moderator. This is as simple as it is.
Very often you only recognize unnecessary and meaningless posts if you know the thread history. Moderators don't have the time to read the thread history but look at the post in isolation. That's why it often doesn't make sense to report it.

Talking about the signature campaigns, I think it really up to the dev and the manager who is managing it. They are spending money to get exposure for their business or product whatever it is and they should have the full right to chose what they want keeping the forum interest in mind.

We really can not force them to do certain things that may lose their interest to advertise in here too. It always has to have a balance and I think we are not doing bad in it so far.
Why can't they be forced to do that? There are countless forum rules. Another rule could be that signature campaigns may not require a minimum number of posts.
I only remember the Yobit campaign some time ago where they intervened, because the conditions of the campaign led to massive spamming.

15 to 20 posts per week really isn't a hell of a lot, and that leaves you plenty of time to think about what you're writing.  Unfortunately I think the issue is that a lot of campaign participants (and bounty hunters) have multiple alts, each also participating in campaigns and this spreads their posting time kind of thin--so they don't put much effort into their posts.
Sure, as I wrote, there are members (like you  Wink ) which write a lot of quality posts a week. But these are in the minority. Such users would also write so many posts if they were not in a campaign, just out of interest for discussion. Most users who are in a signature campaigns, however, would write little to hardly without being rewarded for it. And here is the point at which I think that the bad quality of most posts begins and one could intervene as a forum operator.

This would be difficult or impossible to enforce on the forum. It would take collective effort from the moderators and also regular members to supervise every project run on the forum, especially as some are run on external platforms and linked to BT, if this efforts were channelled to making and marking reports, I believe it would have a much better effect on the forum.
No, it doesn't have to be checked and released individually, but you can simply report it and a moderator will decide whether to write to the Campaign Manager or simply (temporarily) close the thread until the conditions are adjusted to the rules.
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November 16, 2019, 12:58:03 PM
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15 to 20 posts per week really isn't a hell of a lot, and that leaves you plenty of time to think about what you're writing.  Unfortunately I think the issue is that a lot of campaign participants (and bounty hunters) have multiple alts, each also participating in campaigns and this spreads their posting time kind of thin--so they don't put much effort into their posts.

True, it's pretty reasonable but most campaigns have max limits up to like 5 times of the weekly minimum. For instance, my campaign caps at 60 posts (15 min and the rest are counted as bonuses) but like hell I'm gonna spam shit just to fulfill the quota.

But then, advertisers want the maximum exposure for every penny spent so it boils down to the posters. Then it goes back to the square one whereby the minority participates in discussions while the rest just do you-know-what.

One workaround is to add those people to the Ignore list. If the CMs want to check for dupes, there's got to be a better way besides asking mods or staffs to check.

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November 16, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
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Talking about the signature campaigns, I think it really up to the dev and the manager who is managing it. They are spending money to get exposure for their business or product whatever it is and they should have the full right to chose what they want keeping the forum interest in mind.

We really can not force them to do certain things that may lose their interest to advertise in here too. It always has to have a balance and I think we are not doing bad in it so far.
Why can't they be forced to do that? There are countless forum rules. Another rule could be that signature campaigns may not require a minimum number of posts.
I only remember the Yobit campaign some time ago where they intervened, because the conditions of the campaign led to massive spamming.
I don't agree with you. I think minimum number of posts requirement is needed.
Assume that there is no minimum posts requirement. What if there are many users who make only 1-2 posts per week while the campaign needs more active participants?
Be sure managers will likely remove such participants as they have the right remove anyone. So it's better to more clear rule.
I think the better solution is to have a limitation on maximum number posts. (the maximum number of posts that are payed cannot be more than X.)

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November 17, 2019, 12:05:18 PM
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Talking about the signature campaigns, I think it really up to the dev and the manager who is managing it. They are spending money to get exposure for their business or product whatever it is and they should have the full right to chose what they want keeping the forum interest in mind.

We really can not force them to do certain things that may lose their interest to advertise in here too. It always has to have a balance and I think we are not doing bad in it so far.
Why can't they be forced to do that? There are countless forum rules. Another rule could be that signature campaigns may not require a minimum number of posts.
I only remember the Yobit campaign some time ago where they intervened, because the conditions of the campaign led to massive spamming.
I don't agree with you. I think minimum number of posts requirement is needed.
Assume that there is no minimum posts requirement. What if there are many users who make only 1-2 posts per week while the campaign needs more active participants?
Be sure managers will likely remove such participants as they have the right remove anyone. So it's better to more clear rule.
I think the better solution is to have a limitation on maximum number posts. (the maximum number of posts that are payed cannot be more than X.)


Well, in theory it's good solution but practically we are very different.
Some users usually only write in a few topics and can't write many quality posts but others have more free time and knowledge so they can write much more quality and informative posts in the forum.
Sometimes we have very interesting discussions that last for days and in which the same users can have many posts.
Not all users are the same, nor are their posts.
In signature campaigns, the biggest responsibility lies with the managers and their selection criteria for campaign participants.
Someone can spam even with 10 posts and someone else can write up to 100 quality posts without any spam, in my opinion.
Limitation on maximum number posts will not help much, I'm afraid.
The best way to stop spam still remains post reporting function.


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