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February 08, 2025, 06:29:28 PM
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I believe that the name for that subforum, "Scam Accusations", makes everyone believe that every service that has a complaint in there has a higher probability to be a scam.

Would it be good if the admins of BitcoinTalk change the name to something like "Issues and Complaints"? The name "Scam Accusations" might be too aggressive, no?

Your observation is not that bad, but i will like to remind us of the existing announcement thread which i believe almost all these site would have created and anyone having issues with how they are using their platforms could go there to make their various complaints, while for the severe cases or the confirmed ones to be scam are the ones expected to be on the scam accusation board with evidence, its such a pity now that most of the people reporting for scam are not all a scam related issues on that board, if its just a complaint in using a service, then it should be discussed on their announcement thread while the scam accusation board should only contain for any confirmed scam event.

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February 09, 2025, 10:32:20 AM
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There's something cleaner and more constructive-sounding [1] about "Trade Disputes" than "Scam Accusations", isn't there?

This harkens back to a time when the "accusations" involved on-forum dealings between two trading partners, which is something of a rarity nowadays. If we analyze Page 1 of Scam Accusations at the moment:

- 1 topic about a cryptocurrency scam
- 1 topic about an email scam
- 2 topics about Telegram scams
- 2 topics about wallets or online wallet
- 6 topics about crypto exchanges or exchange services
- 24 topic about casinos

Not a single topic regarding a trade deal between two forum users.

For better or worse, renaming the section "Trade Disputes" would probably discourage talk of off-forum deals and experiences. I personally think its kinda neat that Bitcointalk can be a hub for all this other activity; its a social media outlet that people from all over the internet can come to to complain about a bad crypto-related experience. Because Bitcointalk is so powerful in terms of SEO, quite often service providers do take complaints filed there seriously, and some forum members can actually provide valuable help based on if it is in their wheelhouse of knowledge.

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February 09, 2025, 11:37:05 AM
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"Scam accusations" is just fine. No need to change anything. It's an allegation or claim and therefore the accused has to come out and defend themselves if they think they have been wrongly accused.

When someone is trying to research about a certain service. They are mostly likely going to type on the search engine "service name/domain name" + "scam" or "legit" or "review". Typing "scam" alongside the service name will easily bring up the bitcointalk scam accusation threads if there are any, and the user can decide to read through.

Issues and Complaints --> We have Service Announcement threads and then service discussion boards if the service has no service announcements, where Issues and Complaints can also be reported. If someone comes up and advertised a Ponzi scheme or phishing link. It's not an issue, it's straight out scam  Smiley

Trade disputes are so rare in this forum. I don't even remember the last reported one where other members had to mediate to determine who was innocent and who was not. But scam such as loan defaults, advertising scam sites, scam casinos and exchanges are so common just like Nutildah pointed out

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February 09, 2025, 01:40:04 PM
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This harkens back to a time when the "accusations" involved on-forum dealings between two trading partners, which is something of a rarity nowadays. If we analyze Page 1 of Scam Accusations at the moment:

- 1 topic about a cryptocurrency scam
- 1 topic about an email scam
- 2 topics about Telegram scams
- 2 topics about wallets or online wallet
- 6 topics about crypto exchanges or exchange services
- 24 topic about casinos

Not a single topic regarding a trade deal between two forum users.

For better or worse, renaming the section "Trade Disputes" would probably discourage talk of off-forum deals and experiences. I personally think its kinda neat that Bitcointalk can be a hub for all this other activity; its a social media outlet that people from all over the internet can come to to complain about a bad crypto-related experience. Because Bitcointalk is so powerful in terms of SEO, quite often service providers do take complaints filed there seriously, and some forum members can actually provide valuable help based on if it is in their wheelhouse of knowledge.

Nowadays there are so many topics about scam accusations related to casinos - which are not actually scam accusations by the definition of the word by the way - that perhaps they might benefit from getting their own board.

It's basically 2/3rds of all topics anyway. And each casino could appoint their own representative for their own "accusations" (more like disputes & resolutions), like AskGamblers. And there could even be mediators too.

Now that I think about it, it may not even have to be a child board of Scam Accusations. It can simply be a Gambling sub-board.

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February 09, 2025, 03:15:08 PM
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"Scam accusations" is just fine. No need to change anything. It's an allegation or claim and therefore the accused has to come out and defend themselves if they think they have been wrongly accused.

When someone is trying to research about a certain service. They are mostly likely going to type on the search engine "service name/domain name" + "scam" or "legit" or "review". Typing "scam" alongside the service name will easily bring up the bitcointalk scam accusation threads if there are any, and the user can decide to read through.

As simple there's no need showing empathy on serious issues such as scam and accusations. As legal justification, there's every transparent necessary to call a spade a spade without compromise just to show sympathy. There's no tolerance and no room for sugarcoating if justice for reign. Besides the tag of the sub board "Scam Accusations" in the forum doesn't justify the accuser earns it a justice rather in the main time the allegation is alleged and hasn't been verified of who's right or wrong.
I think only the guilts fears the sound of the truths and justice.

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