Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!.

[TECSHARE]

They probably already have such a database built, with all the face unlock on phones and facial recognition on social media. I understand the implications and it is indeed a slippery slope. The technology itself is harmless and can be used for things like finding missing people, etc.

I don't live in the US, do the public there have a way to stop this from being implemented or a way to reduce the risk of it being misused?

And currently you can still opt out of using such products. You can't really opt out of government and passively collected databases though like they do at the DMV and now airports. People can raise awareness of the endless negative implications of this technology and get legislation passed to protect against it like some states have done. No technology is harmless. You can build a house with a hammer or you can cave some one's head in with it. This gives the hammer no moral value. Technology is a tool and its use depends on the motives of those that control it.

At least the face recog is not yet required there in the US and you have more chance of having laws passed against it. Do you think laws can be used to have them destroy passively collected data?

Some states already have laws against it, but at the same time the DMV has been collecting high resolution photos usable for facial recognition for some time. Why do you think they put up those signs that say "don't smile please" it is because it throws off the metrics. See also the "REAL ID Act".

[nancy]

This against basic humans rights but govs did not care.....

[franky1]

I like technology and I don't mind if I'm being filmed by CCTV and scanned. Most people get upset and nervous when you take your phone and start filming them walking, but they don't understand they're being filmed all the time, just not as blatantly. It shows that as long as you don't see things you don't care, but once you realize it's happening it makes you more scared, paranoid even.


Technology always has some pros and cons. I'm a fan of smart homes and think that it's great that your house can sense you coming back and heat up the interior, switch the lights on, make you a coffee. Some people will be scared that what if the house locks you inside or starts telling the whole world where you are and what you're doing, but there's a risk in everything we're doing. You want self driving cars but you also don't want them to run people over or drive off a clif.

but the perception of CCTV is that the image data is purely used by police to monitor potential crimes. not to then be used to sell to amazon on peoples shopping habits.

having a geolocation app that communicates just to your home router and just activates the heating when in proximity has its uses. but then selling the geolocation data to show which petrol stations you fuel your car at or what shops you visited and finding out if you like the temperature real hot to advertise hot chilli meals and hot drinks or if you prefer the temperature cooler to advertise iced tea and and cold meals is just taking things too far into peoples privacy

[darkangel11]

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I know, but can there be one without the other? We need companies that have moral standards, but we can't always have what we want. They had no moral standards 10 years ago and they aren't going to have them now. Should we criticize this? Sure! Should we resign from all the gadgets because they are monitoring our activities? I don't think so.
Maybe this will open the market to new startups that will value our privacy like those that make safe phones with optional sim and wifi cutoff switches.
I'd rather buy a hacked smart home product with no connection to the manufacturer's cloud than the original.

[TECSHARE]

Public push back does work...


https://www.rt.com/usa/475143-border-agency-reverse-facial-recognition/

[franky1]

Should we resign from all the gadgets because they are monitoring our activities? I don't think so.

should we hack/jailbreak tech and allow ourselves to use whatever open source apps we would actually prefer on the device? yep

kind of like should we just resign from bitcoin coz core centralised the decisions.
or should we keep trying to hold them accountable to their actions and try preventing them sliding in changes that take people off the network without consent(consensus)

[franky1]

Public push back does work...
https://www.rt.com/usa/475143-border-agency-reverse-facial-recognition/

reading it carefully it could be read that passengers can request not being recorded.
meaning automatic recording but deletion if a reqeust is formally made

this means that data gathered would require a person then asking for it not to be kept.
if regulations become wordd as such i can see this being abused in many ways like making it so annoying to say no to face recog (like how annoying it is to say no to cookie/ad/data tracking on every website) that people end up just pushing accept rather than deselecting 50 tickboxes

a bit like how stupid browsers work that send a 'do not track' request. or them phone call services that suppose to stop business cold calling you...

yet you then find out data is still gathered, info is still passed around and then if found out years later they just say 'oopsie sorry, tell use the cost of the fine and we will pay it.. no harm done'

you know. the whole 'teenager has criminal records sealed and expunged at 18' .. yet years later gets told someone unsealed the records..
or them anonymous adoptions where social services still have the records but just say they cant disclose
hmmm... not quite a removal of record after all if someone was able to find it

only solution
have no cameras at airport check-in desk at all. or if there is a camera make it abundantly clear you dont want records kept, but still expect someone somewhere to still have that data

[yoseph]

This against basic humans rights but govs did not care.....

Though this does infringe on the privacy of everybody, it's being done for something good and that's for the security and safety of the people. With the database created with these scans it would be easy to arrest criminals and maybe stop potential terrorist attacks,  would be great if it was implemented everywhere.

[iluvbitcoins]

This against basic humans rights but govs did not care.....

Though this does infringe on the privacy of everybody, it's being done for something good and that's for the security and safety of the people. With the database created with these scans it would be easy to arrest criminals and maybe stop potential terrorist attacks,  would be great if it was implemented everywhere.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

I think giving someone power to listen to everything everyone says - ever outweighs the benefit of having a terrorist database.

[mikehersh2]

We should keep in mind, however, that China is a one-party, communist state. While the issue of surveillance and privacy are certainly important, I wouldn't expect anything like this to become reality in the United States any time soon. We are begging to crack down on data-harvesting and privacy issues as a whole, and while the technology used to limit our privacy is increasing, many legal actions are in place to try and counter that. Take all of the recent allegations towards Facebook as an example.

Furthermore, other ways to balance this new phenomena are being created with technology as well. Even taking bitcoin or other crypto for instance...
Taking a major aspect of our individual lives, money and it's location, and keeping it secure, out of the hands of those who pull the strings in our society. With more creations hopefully on the rise to allow us to keep our privacy in different ways, I hope we will one day have the ability to choose what we want to keep private and what we dont.

[TECSHARE]

We should keep in mind, however, that China is a one-party, communist state. While the issue of surveillance and privacy are certainly important, I wouldn't expect anything like this to become reality in the United States any time soon. We are begging to crack down on data-harvesting and privacy issues as a whole, and while the technology used to limit our privacy is increasing, many legal actions are in place to try and counter that. Take all of the recent allegations towards Facebook as an example.

Furthermore, other ways to balance this new phenomena are being created with technology as well. Even taking bitcoin or other crypto for instance...
Taking a major aspect of our individual lives, money and it's location, and keeping it secure, out of the hands of those who pull the strings in our society. With more creations hopefully on the rise to allow us to keep our privacy in different ways, I hope we will one day have the ability to choose what we want to keep private and what we dont.

It is already happening in the US, don't fool yourself. Public resistance is only slowing it, if anything. The Chinese people don't get a choice, they are under a dictatorship and they all know it. In the USA they have to spin it like it is a good thing and obfuscate the project as well as the negative effects of implementing such systems, but they are in fact being created here too.

[TECSHARE]

https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2019/12/brookline-massachusetts-passes-facial-recognition-ban/

https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2019/12/san-diego-shuts-down-massive-facial-recognition-system-to-comply-with-new-california-law/

https://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2019/12/nec-uses-customer-experience-centers-to.html

[Balthazar]

Not news here. Moscow is full of CCTVs which are linked into single informational system. Its main purpose is to detect violation of traffic and some other administrative rules but it's also able to recognize faces.
Just for example, at previous christmas I found that my laptop was stolen, along with some other things. That happened in the airport, so there were really a lot of suspects. Police was able to track down the thief in less than 4 days. He was arrested, my laptop and other belongings were found in his flat. That was the quickest investigation I've ever seen, you might agree that such efficiency is frightening.

P.S. His lawyer offered me a deal and asked to withdraw a claim. I accepted it since I don't want to put somebody in jail for stealing the MacBook.

[GideonGono]

I have read in news that China has made it compulsory for new mobile users to scan their face when registering for new mobile phone services, which I feel is bad in law as this will allow the Chinese government to further snoop on them. In another article the US government now wants it’s own citizens to compulsory take a face scan while entering and exiting their country.

How long do you think before the other countries will follow suit, I would say only a matter of years before facial recognition scan is made compulsory all over the world.

In case you’re wondering why it’s a big deal then let me tell you that there are lots of potential dangers which include: Identity Theft, Hacking and worst of all your information will be sold to the corporates who’ll use it to bombard you with advertisements and products.

Now many will argue that the governments will secure our data and there won’t be any data breaches, well to them I say just do a quick google search and you’ll find that all our sensitive data often gets leaked and will keep getting leaked.

I would like to know how you’re dealing with the menance called facial recognition, and what is the situation in your country.

Also if there’s a data expert here who can give us more guidelines on how to protect ourselves, and any security measures we should implement I would appreciate it you post it here.

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50587098

https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/02/homeland-security-face-recognition-airport-citizens/

https://www.equifax.co.uk/resources/identity_protection/facial-recognition-and-identity-risk.html

Then do buy a trusted products because some gadgets didn't care by your looks. How they get your identity when it was new? If also you'd buy in a legal way then that was safe. They didn't want to broke the privacy of their customer of course so what's the problem?

[Sadlife]

As the world where science and discoveries goes further the advancement of technology also goes with it. Yes there are benefits of technology or gadget in our lives, it made everyday life more convenient and easy, to connect to various people or family and access information more quickly. However there are also disadvantage in this modern society like the lack of privacy to use that data by a company or organization to breach our personal lives like being watched by a cctv everyday. I think this is up to us how we use this technologies to know what's more than enough, In order to preserve our privacy.