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February 10, 2020, 07:34:09 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2020, 07:59:19 PM by walletrecovery
 #1

Yesterday we were asked such a question how can we provide services to restore a wallet without having a wallet?
I did not have time to answer this question in 2AM, my topic "50 bitcointalk members lost 647,792 BTC?" deleted by moderators.

The topic was very interesting and useful, and I don’t understand why it was deleted, but not about that now.

I answer on your question: "wallet recovery" services without a wallet.dat file?
- Yes it’s possible, of course we risk not getting money for the services, but we believe that even
if 90% of the customers do not pay us, it will still be profitably for us to provide password recovery services.
customers do not send us wallet files, they are send us encryption record only (see thegrideon or hashcat software).

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February 10, 2020, 07:43:49 PM
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Your website domain is a bit strange, walletrecovery.ru

There are many similar websites with similar domain names. Maybe your topic was deleted because someone may have considered your website a phishing? I wasn't brave enough to click it lol

Looks clean on virus total
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February 10, 2020, 07:54:32 PM
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Your website domain is a bit strange, walletrecovery.ru

There are many similar websites with similar domain names. Maybe your topic was deleted because someone may have considered your website a phishing? I wasn't brave enough to click it lol

Looks clean on virus total
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/132b01c4395023fa46e0e8ee3ae5118d61abd3119ee5214cf2f3a11fab6bcf22/detection

what the hell is phishing? I have a security certificate!

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February 10, 2020, 08:45:51 PM
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Your website domain is a bit strange, walletrecovery.ru

It's a enough reason to avoid this "service". Ru domain it's a bad start.

what the hell is phishing? I have a security certificate!


Of course! Here it is:

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Имя: sni.cloudflaressl.com
Пceвдoнимы: walletrecovery.ru, sni.cloudflaressl.com, *.walletrecovery.ru
Цeнтp выдaчи: CloudFlare Inc ECC CA-2
Cepийный нoмep: 15154506493566026940345393347699563790
Aлгopитм пoдпиcи: ecdsa-with-SHA256

But Cloudflare (the same as Let's encrypt) can't be considered as trustworthy Certification authority . They were catched many times by providing certificates to DDOS sites, phishing sites and other scammy services.

Despite this, i looked into site and they used thegrideon feature which is export records of encrypted file but without file itself.

Here it is:
"Records required for search can be exported to be processed without wallet file." - https://www.thegrideon.com/bitcoin-password-recovery.html

I think thegrideon programm exporting hash and you can share it with anyone without afraid to get wallet.dat to be stolen. Maybe i'm wrong.

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February 10, 2020, 09:15:07 PM
 #5

Your website domain is a bit strange, walletrecovery.ru

It's a enough reason to avoid this "service". Ru domain it's a bad start.

what the hell is phishing? I have a security certificate!


Of course! Here it is:

Code:
Имя: sni.cloudflaressl.com
Пceвдoнимы: walletrecovery.ru, sni.cloudflaressl.com, *.walletrecovery.ru
Цeнтp выдaчи: CloudFlare Inc ECC CA-2
Cepийный нoмep: 15154506493566026940345393347699563790
Aлгopитм пoдпиcи: ecdsa-with-SHA256

But Cloudflare (the same as Let's encrypt) can't be considered as trustworthy Certification authority . They were catched many times by providing certificates to DDOS sites, phishing sites and other scammy services.

Despite this, i looked into site and they used thegrideon feature which is export records of encrypted file but without file itself.

Here it is:
"Records required for search can be exported to be processed without wallet file." - https://www.thegrideon.com/bitcoin-password-recovery.html

I think thegrideon programm exporting hash and you can share it with anyone without afraid to get wallet.dat to be stolen. Maybe i'm wrong.

"Cloudflare" I use only for statistics of site visits. I have another security certificate. Thanks for your research.

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February 10, 2020, 11:18:29 PM
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Your other thread was deleted because it was spam, and violated members' privacy.  You listed a bunch of wallets that belong to members of the forum, along with their names and the wallets' balances.  You only did it to promote your service, and doing so outside the "Services" board is a violation of the forum rules.

Furthermore, posting the addresses, names, and balances of those wallets was a real dick move.  No one here needs you to do that.  Assuming that those users lost access to their wallets because they haven't been touched for some time is plain wrong.  Obviously you don't care about those people's privacy, which is a bad start for someone in your position to demonstrate.  If you expect to attract clients, you may want to change your tactics.

If you want to advertise your service and not have your thread deleted, do so in the proper board.

Services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
Service Announcements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=84.0

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February 11, 2020, 05:54:20 AM
Last edit: February 11, 2020, 06:14:13 AM by walletrecovery
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"Ru domain it's a bad start."

You know, once the Dutch deceived me very much, and now what does it mean to have a business on the ".NL" domain is a bad start, and all the ".COM" domains are a 100% good start? You are wrong when you have such an opinion. Everywhere there are bad people and good people.

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February 11, 2020, 06:02:06 AM
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Your other thread was deleted because it was spam, and violated members' privacy.  You listed a bunch of wallets that belong to members of the forum, along with their names and the wallets' balances.  You only did it to promote your service, and doing so outside the "Services" board is a violation of the forum rules.

Furthermore, posting the addresses, names, and balances of those wallets was a real dick move.  No one here needs you to do that.  Assuming that those users lost access to their wallets because they haven't been touched for some time is plain wrong.  Obviously you don't care about those people's privacy, which is a bad start for someone in your position to demonstrate.  If you expect to attract clients, you may want to change your tactics.

If you want to advertise your service and not have your thread deleted, do so in the proper board.

Services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
Service Announcements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=84.0

"violated members' privacy."?

Are you crazy?
They themselves published their wallets in signatures and their profile, what are you talking about?
All this data is obtained from open sources, on your forum, everyone can see and check if he wants to spend time on it.
I did everything right and wanted to warn these members, the administration of this site could help them, send them emails with a balance notification.
You are powerless to help these people, but you have the courage to crap here in the comments and write useless nonsense.

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February 11, 2020, 07:23:36 AM
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if you and your team are so good on recovering walled without wallet dat file try recover that wallet that was post on services and the guy offered 100 btc but well is hard to trust him, so he should agree somehow to use an escrow.
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February 11, 2020, 07:37:42 AM
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if you and your team are so good on recovering walled without wallet dat file try recover that wallet that was post on services and the guy offered 100 btc but well is hard to trust him, so he should agree somehow to use an escrow.

if you have information, write me a link. if the client pays us for successful work, we will not forget about you and will pay part of our remuneration.

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February 11, 2020, 10:19:09 AM
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I assume that bugsbuds is talking about this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222029.0
I can't remember the details exactly but I think OP has the correct wallet file but he doesn't know his password. He also can't remember any specific  details of the password.

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February 11, 2020, 10:49:13 AM
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I assume that bugsbuds is talking about this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222029.0
I can't remember the details exactly but I think OP has the correct wallet file but he doesn't know his password. He also can't remember any specific  details of the password.

Thank you, I read the topic, we are not interested in such clients.

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February 11, 2020, 03:41:08 PM
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"violated members' privacy."?

Are you crazy?
They themselves published their wallets in signatures and their profile, what are you talking about?
All this data is obtained from open sources, on your forum, everyone can see and check if he wants to spend time on it.
I did everything right and wanted to warn these members, the administration of this site could help them, send them emails with a balance notification.
You are powerless to help these people, but you have the courage to crap here in the comments and write useless nonsense.

Yes, privacy.  If you had any concern for your clients' privacy you would not have posted that list.  You could have PM'd each of those members with your "concern" for their balances, lol.  Sure, most recipients would have flagged your PM as spam, just like that thread you posted.

But that's not what this is about anyway.  You're a spammer trying to advertise your "service" outside the normal channels provided on this forum.  Probably because the boards where you are allowed to post don't provide much visibility for your spam.  So you're abusing this board to shill your shit.

Now that you've gotten your answer as to why your other thread was deleted, feel free to lock this one because it's off topic for this board, and may also get deleted.  

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February 11, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Last edit: February 11, 2020, 06:00:56 PM by walletrecovery
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"violated members' privacy."?

Are you crazy?
They themselves published their wallets in signatures and their profile, what are you talking about?
All this data is obtained from open sources, on your forum, everyone can see and check if he wants to spend time on it.
I did everything right and wanted to warn these members, the administration of this site could help them, send them emails with a balance notification.
You are powerless to help these people, but you have the courage to crap here in the comments and write useless nonsense.

Yes, privacy.  If you had any concern for your clients' privacy you would not have posted that list.  You could have PM'd each of those members with your "concern" for their balances, lol.  Sure, most recipients would have flagged your PM as spam, just like that thread you posted.

But that's not what this is about anyway.  You're a spammer trying to advertise your "service" outside the normal channels provided on this forum.  Probably because the boards where you are allowed to post don't provide much visibility for your spam.  So you're abusing this board to shill your shit.

Now that you've gotten your answer as to why your other thread was deleted, feel free to lock this one because it's off topic for this board, and may also get deleted.  

It’s useless to explain anything to stubborn eccentrics like you.
It doesn’t matter if I advertise something or not, call it what you want.
I conducted a 24h study based on data from open sources.
If you are not on the list of those unfortunate people who have not visited this forum for a long time and who have probably forgotten about their wallets, then do not envy them.
Nobody can steal their coins from them, do not worry about them and their privacy this is not you business.
You're just an strange person who stands his ground and does not understand what he writes.
I don’t have time to explain anything additional to you, everything is clear to me with you.
You would be a hero for everyone if you just shut up and did not raise this topic, if only because this list is no longer there, it was deleted, now just shut up and rejoice.
Finaly this list was not 50 people, but more, and because of such villains as you, they people will never be able to find out and recall that they have money from 2010, 2011, 2012, when they transferred a trifle for the sake of a joke to different addresses.
Now go to hell!

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