REEE: Post Reporting Being Used As A Tool Of Harassment and Censorship

[nutildah]

Since TECSHARE doesn't want to hear rebuttals in his locked thread, I thought I would point out some of the things he missed for him in this thread.

From TS's OP in the locked thread:

By the pattern of the removed posts, you will see the intent is harassment and preventing specific topics from being discussed. They mods are either just mindlessly removing them, or worse actively complicit in this behavior.

The intent of the mods is to do their job as mod. That should be self-evident.

Feel free to make another REE: Thread™ if me having the ability to speak in this thread bothers you so much.

That's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that you won't let other people speak and explain to you why you are mistaken in your locked threads.

For example (and mods, please feel free to correct me where I may be mistaken):

Post #1 (reply to Vod in topic OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes): Vod's comment was off-topic, thus it was deleted. As your post solely addressed his off-topic post, it was also deleted. This is pretty standard protocol.

Post #2 (reply to Vod in topic More trust system abuse by Lauda): same as Post #1, your comment was deleted as it was only a response to Vod's post, which was also off-topic. You even said this:

Remind me again what this has to do with the topic? Oh right nothing, not that you or the mods give a shit about that.

Apparently the mods do give a shit about it.

Post #3 (reply to Vod in topic More trust system abuse by Lauda): you just reposted your previous reply to Vod, whose comment was, again, also deleted.

Post #4 (reply to Lauda in topic Timelord2067 ad hominem, trolling, fud, accusations, fake flags, lies etc NSFW): this was written in a self-moderated thread, it even says Lauda deleted it:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.

Post #5 (reply to marlboroza in topic PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2): this was your reply:

Thanks for demonstrating how the mob handles criticism... with more mobbing.

How do you consider this to be on-topic? Its just a quip and adds nothing constructive to the conversation.

Post #6 (reply to marboroza in topic PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2): same principle as posts 1-4 -- the post you were replying to was deemed off-topic, and as a result your response was off-topic as well.

Post #7 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

Post #8 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

Post #9 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

OK, you mentioned a lot of deleted posts and I am not going to go through the rest of them individually, but I hope you can see the pattern emerging here.

If a post you are replying to is deemed off-topic and deleted, and your reply only addresses the off-topic aspect of the deleted post, your post will also be deleted.

Some of your other deleted posts are just straight off-topic or trolling. As I said in the other REE thread, even TOAA learned that in order to not have their troll posts deleted, they needed to address an on-topic element in their post somewhere, then they were free to troll about and be a general dickhead.

OK let's take a look at the rest of the ones I think were probably just deleted for trolling/off-topic, and not because the post you were responding to was deleted:

Is some one upset their little smear fest is not working as planned?

You mean like these dogs?
(meme)

You are often wrong, but since when has that stopped you?

Now only to get to the other dozen or so people you attack...

Some how I don't find your observations to be very impartial considering your own history of trust system abuse against me.

Out of your list of 26 posts, I see 2 that are borderline on-topic and perhaps shouldn't have been deleted. The last one is hard to place given there's no context.

2 out of 26. And for those 2, most people would say, "oh well", and move on with their lives.

Well now, I know your natural response to me is "I don't care what you think", and that's part of the problem. You should care, because if you did, you might have learned a thing or two from what others are trying to point out to you. Instead you live in a perpetual state of confusion and paranoia, which I guess for you is a lot more fun than simply accepting you didn't understand the forum rules.

[TECSHARE]

I appreciate you demonstrating your obsession with me and exposing your inability to control yourself when you think you have any avenue to attack me. It does a good job establishing your accusations, that others have used to justify negative rating me, are based on your personal disdain, and not any legitimate or substantial observations. As usual, thank you for doing you part to help me raise awareness about these issues.

[suchmoon]

Do we have details on which moderators are involved in this vast anti-TECSHARE conspiracy? It's not just FHF anymore if I'm reading this right.

[truth or dare]

Do we have details on which moderators are involved in this vast anti-TECSHARE conspiracy? It's not just FHF anymore if I'm reading this right.

Again you are found to be attemting to be funny and smart rather than taking the situation seriously. The moderator that deleted posts are not transparent, as you are aware.
This should be addressed

The explanations provided by nultildah appear solid regading those specific examples. Is this the complete list of contentious reports. The responsibility remains with the moderator.

It is best for this forum to address directly the points being made by other members, rather than to attempt to fuel personal disagreements with additional sarcasm and ridicule.

[suchmoon]

It is best for this forum to address directly the points being made by other members, rather than to attempt to fuel personal disagreements with additional sarcasm and ridicule.

You have learned so much since your appearance 9 years 3 hours ago but you still have a lot to learn. Don't fuck with my constitutional right to ridicule TECSHARE any time I want.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You have learned so much since your appearance 9 years 3 hours ago but you still have a lot to learn.

Oh lordy, please just put him on ignore because it's pretty clear even after just a few posts who this member really is, and if everyone keeps responding to his posts, it'll never end.

Do we have details on which moderators are involved in this vast anti-TECSHARE conspiracy? It's not just FHF anymore if I'm reading this right.

TECSHARE has got a persecution complex that borders on paranoia, but I don't have a problem with him exercising his right to complain vociferously about whatever he thinks the mods are doing to him.  I happen to think that mods aren't against him, which is generally the rule when you have posts deleted, but obviously he sees things differently and there's not much any of us can say that's going to change his mind.  I've had plenty of posts deleted by moderators (and in self-moderated threads), but I've never thought any moderator was against me. 

Politics & Society is probably a prickly section with much disagreement and probably some heated arguments, but I still don't think FHF is anti-TECSHARE, at least not from the evidence presented.  TS would probably be better off just taking a mental health break instead of enraging himself further.  There's no shame in that.

[TECSHARE]

TECSHARE has got a persecution complex that borders on paranoia, but I don't have a problem with him exercising his right to complain vociferously about whatever he thinks the mods are doing to him.  I happen to think that mods aren't against him, which is generally the rule when you have posts deleted, but obviously he sees things differently and there's not much any of us can say that's going to change his mind.  I've had plenty of posts deleted by moderators (and in self-moderated threads), but I've never thought any moderator was against me.  

Politics & Society is probably a prickly section with much disagreement and probably some heated arguments, but I still don't think FHF is anti-TECSHARE, at least not from the evidence presented.  TS would probably be better off just taking a mental health break instead of enraging himself further.  There's no shame in that.

I see a lot of people very obsessed with every detail of my activities here. Why exactly? Who knows. One might suspect ulterior motives with such obsessive focus on my activities, almost like a perpetual fishing expedition, but that is all in my head right?

There are a bunch of "Permit Patties" running around spamming reports on my posts as an attempt at gas lighting and censoring me.  The mods should know better than this, but they apparently just go with it for the most part or are not paying very close attention. At best they are unknowingly enabling this behavior.

The nature of this activity means I am mostly in the dark, and the peanut gallery most certainly doesn't have a clue. There is also the fact that I can hardly ever seem to get any of the off topic posts I report removed, almost none of which are marked bad, but just ignored and left unhandled. Also all of this flurry of removed posts always just happens to align with accusations, frivolous negative ratings on my trust page, and coordinated attacks from the usual clowns. All just coincidence I am sure. You all enjoy yourselves obsessing over me if that's how you really want to spend your time though. You are helping me raise awareness even if that isn't your intent.

[suchmoon]

You are helping me raise awareness even if that isn't your intent.

I don't mind helping you raise awareness of your petty narcissistic tantrums and your utter inability to acknowledge that you can be (and often are) wrong.

[nutildah]

As usual, thank you for doing you part to help me raise awareness about these issues.

The main issue is that you don't understand how forum moderation works.

If you write a reply that solely addresses a post that is later deleted for being off-topic, that means your post is off-topic as well, and will also be deleted. It's pretty easy to understand, really.

[marlboroza]

Politics & Society is probably a prickly section with much disagreement and probably some heated arguments, but I still don't think FHF is anti-TECSHARE, at least not from the evidence presented.

These posts are from meta and reputation, Flying Hellfish doesn't moderate that.

Post #4 [...] this was written in a self-moderated thread, it even says Lauda deleted it:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.

Not Lauda, it was me, 2 other replies have been removed as well. I didn't create thread so someone could use it to troll users, therefore post is removed. I don't know why he mentioned it in that thread, post is obviously not reported to moderator.

What is all this about anyway? It sounds like T thinks he is only user on forum and moderators are removing only his off topic/trolling and only his posts are being reported and removed which is not true.

[Vod]

What is all this about anyway? It sounds like T thinks he is only user on forum and moderators are removing only his off topic/trolling and only his posts are being reported and removed which is not true.

Welcome back... I was worried you left for good.

I have also had many posts removed recently.   But this, like everything else, is only about Techy.  :/

[TECSHARE]

My favorite thing about these threads is it is like a clown car that carpools around to pick up all the clowns and brings them to one place so they can demonstrate their clown act. Except for Vod of course, he is a sad children's party magician. He still hitches a ride with the clown car though. Don't forget your noses everyone.

[nutildah]

My favorite thing about these threads is it is like a clown car that carpools around to pick up all the clowns and brings them to one place so they can demonstrate their clown act. Except for Vod of course, he is a sad children's party magician. He still hitches a ride with the clown car though. Don't forget your noses everyone.

So you're just choosing to remain completely impervious to the fact that you aren't being "singled out" and simply being treated like everyone else? Do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or just namecalling?

Your response is a perfect example of a post that should be deleted for being off-topic. It doesn't have anything to do with the subject matter being discussed and is simply trolling. If it gets deleted, I wouldn't be surprised, and I also wouldn't be surprised if mine was deleted along with it.

[TECSHARE]

My favorite thing about these threads is it is like a clown car that carpools around to pick up all the clowns and brings them to one place so they can demonstrate their clown act. Except for Vod of course, he is a sad children's party magician. He still hitches a ride with the clown car though. Don't forget your noses everyone.

So you're just choosing to remain completely impervious to the fact that you aren't being "singled out" and simply being treated like everyone else? Do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or just namecalling?

Your response is a perfect example of a post that should be deleted for being off-topic. It doesn't have anything to do with the subject matter being discussed and is simply trolling. If it gets deleted, I wouldn't be surprised, and I also wouldn't be surprised if mine was deleted along with it.

Do you ever ask yourself, regardless of what is happening here, why it is you are so obsessed with my every activity you feel the need to respond to it? It seems to me people who spend so much time observing and commenting on an individual have ulterior motives. Of course concern trolling is absolutely on topic, and you take full advantage of that don't you Nutilduhhhh?

[nutildah]

So you're just choosing to remain completely impervious to the fact that you aren't being "singled out" and simply being treated like everyone else? Do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or just namecalling?

Do you ever ask yourself, regardless of what is happening here, why it is you are so obsessed with my every activity you feel the need to respond to it?

I'll take that as a "no" and another "no."

Back to the subject: The majority of your comments were deleted as they were responses to off-topic posts that were also deleted. Both your and their posts were completely devoid of relevance to the topic of discussion. Just thought you should know.

[marlboroza]

Welcome back... I was worried you left for good.

I am here, observing things...

Theymos said off topic replies are big problem:

Off-topic replies have become a big problem.

...and to report them ASAP

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

It might not be correct, but I recall this mess started because someone reported tecshare's post and moderator removed it, then he created more off topic posts and someone reported more of his off topic replies and moderators removed them.

So, he complained about it, accused moderator Flying Hellfish that he is censoring him, then he accused moderator for not related thing. When nutildah pointed that, tech trolled nutildah, then other users stepped in to tell him that he is wrong then he trolled other users as well, and, as number of users which told him that he is wrong increased, he created conspiracy theory that there is some "gang" shit going on. His constant trolling and deflecting and gaming default trust resulted in some negative and some neutrals as well, so it must be something going on.

Of course, moderators removing his off topic replies didn't stop him from deflecting more threads, posting more off topic content resulted in more of his posts reported and removed (as well as off topic replies of other forum members) and as he already formed conspiracy theory in his head, this just "proved his theory", now he "knows" the "gang" is "on him". In process, he posted one of his removed posts in wrong thread (harassing me btw). Finally, he created another thread to complain about his removed off topic replies, locked it down and said:

Feel free to make another REEE: Thread™ if me having the ability to speak in this thread bothers you so much. This will remain locked to prevent topic sliding, since it is only a log of incidents.

So nutildah created another thread and techare is now 100% sure there is some kind of conspiracy going on. If user agree with him it is OK then, but if user disagree, problem start - expect that you will be accused of conspiring with "clown car gang".


The truth is - there is no conspiracy. Techare should stop off-topicing and trolling, no one will report his posts and no one will remove his posts then.

[Vod]

Theymos said off topic replies are big problem:

Off-topic replies have become a big problem.

...and to report them ASAP

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Those quotes are nearing their decade anniversary.   I think the sudden post removal is just an "enforcement sprint" to calm things down overall.   Most people understood they were not being targeted.

Also, thank you for quoting Theymos properly (not removing text that changes the tone).