UK to intentionally infect healthy people with covid for test purposes!!!

[Juggy777]

I am having trouble understanding this but isn’t UK putting more lockdown rules to unsure that Covid doesn’t spread because it’s already spreading a lot?, if yes then why risk the lives of people even if they come voluntarily to get themselves infected for testing purposes.

Furthermore if there’re lack of covid patients then why is there a need for lockdown?, why not allow UK citizens to enjoy their life’s like they used to before covid came.

Lastly I’m disappointed with this kind of study, and I can only pray for those volunteers as they’re taking a huge risk with their lives.

Sources:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/volunteers-for-covid-infection-could-soon-get-the-call-in-u-k

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/13/uk-cases-covid-19-deaths-coronavirus-numbers-today/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54482905

[Jet Cash]

You shouldn't be asking such questions. By asking for factual replies to rational questions, you will blow their whole scam apart.

Of course you need to infect people with the virus after vaccination to test it. The real question is - Are they testing to see if people have developed natural immunity before the infect them? It would be interesting to see how much the vaccinations weaken natural immunity. Obviously they can't enhance it, as healthy people can;t be infected.

One other points is - How are they infecting people? A major part of our immune system comes from mucosal immunity, and induced infection can disrupt the auto-reactive T-cells, which can lead to diabetes. Just checking for antibodies is a trivial test, and disregards the complexity of the human system. However, it does make the Pharma shareholders  rich, even if it does mess up your health.

[Charles-Tim]

It would be interesting to see how much the vaccinations weaken natural immunity. Obviously they can't enhance it, as healthy people can;t be infected.

I started a thread not quite long, it is about someone that was reported by doctor to be reinfected with covid-19, although, they said such case to be rear but the infection is more severe than before, although the person also survived it but it could be as a result of weakened immunity to the virus. If the second disease case can be worse than the first, what is going to happen to people that are vacinanted but likely to be infected with the disease with stronger symptoms. Check the course of the disease that happened to the guy I am referring to below:

25 March - First wave of symptoms, including sore throat, cough, headache, nausea and diarrhoea
18 April - He tests positive for the first time
27 April - Initial symptoms fully resolve
9 and 26 May - He tests negative for the virus on two occasions
28 May - He develops symptoms again, this time including fever, headache, dizziness, cough, nausea and diarrhoea
5 June - He tests positive for the second time, and is hypoxic (low blood oxygen) with shortness of breath

If it happens to be like this, vaccination will only weaken the immune system against the covid-19 reinfection. Although, this has only been noticed to happen to only one person, happening to masses has not be discovered. Immunity needs to be strong which will make this disease not to occur while we should also always focus on preventive measures.

Covid reinfection
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281765.new#new
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54512034

[BADecker]

On the other side of it, however, infecting healthy people is really close to the final thing that should be done in isolating the virus. But it is supposed to be done by researchers, in a closed environment... not by the Government in the public.

To find out what the virus really is, researchers need to:
1. get a sick person;
2. take some fluid or other material from the sick person's lungs/body;
3. separate the material using filtration and centrifugalization, and other means if available;
4. detect which of various, different viral particles exist in greatest abundance, well above the others in number;
5. infect many healthy test subjects with each kind of abundant virus particle to see who gets sick from what;
6. later, all of the test subjects need to have bodily material tested as in 1 thru 4, above, to see if they have the same virus particles in them, making them sick. Obviously, if they aren't sick, the virus tested isn't contagious. Note that, there will always be a few people who will get sick from just about anything.

Numbers 5 and 6, above, have never been done anywhere... at least that is publicly recorded widely enough that the average doctor can find the report. Since they (5 and 6) haven't been done, we really don't know FOR A FACT which virus is making people sick. All that the British are doing is trying to ascertain for themselves what is really making the people sick.

Most of the USA and British people don't understand what the British Government is doing, and why it should be done. The USA isn't smart enough to do this... or is smart enough to do it in secret so that they don't alarm the people. Trump probably had it done in the US, and that is why he is as sure of himself as he is.

[franky1]

to correct idiot badecker because he knows and previously acknowledged that it has passed the koch, rivers and bell and thus passing the 6 steps badecker listed including him seeing reports of multiple animals that have shown points 5 and 6 were passed. he denies it because his youtube influencer is looking at data from february and not loking hard.. but i have and others have and the internet show many many examples of isolating the virus. but it involvs badecker remembering its october and not february for him to accept it..

maybe he is just trolling. maybe he has memory problems. either way he cant seem to even care that he has been debunked many times otver the month and he just keeps circling back to outdated stuff from february.

anyway
oxford/astra zenika/J&J intentionally had a requirement that participants in vaccine trials were doctors and teachers because they are in high proximity of groups or people that get sick the most.
(snotty nosed kids and hospital patients)
and they were responsible adults that would be more accurate in reviewing any issues they have.

they are all asked to just do their normal jobs. they are NOT asked to sniff any lab replicated covid virus. and there are laws against it
the articles linked in the topic post are not actual quotes from the company but are opinions by a writer trying to mystify and question things. without understanding it

they can work out its safe(no adverse reactions) by ~october2020. but not know the effectiveness as a vaccine to prevent sever disease from a virus  until they have people being reinfected. which can take a long time
oxford/astra zenika are letting their trial go on til october 2021. because they know there wont be any reinfections quickly

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as for charles tims opinion
a vaccine goes through a process where it triggeres the immune systen to create antibodies. the vaccine doesnt 'weaken the immune system against covid' it instead wuld due to triggering the immune system. the immune system is working hard and thus need to rest. what you find is while antigens are in the blood the marrow in the bones that have created the antigens. then have to replenish.
a vaccine does not harm or damage the marrow. instead its just your marrow is used up that month.
this means if you get sick 1 month later. your marrow has not fully replenished(aches and pains) so if high dose infected second time. within short period of first infection. your body knows what antigens to make but just has not replenished supplies to make them

so in short. it is not best to get infected/vaccinated and then be forced infected just 1 month after. usually 2-6months is minimal seasonal gap for your body to then be ready to work at peak
take bone marrow transplant patients they can recover within 2-6 weeks
so getting sick a second time within 6 weeks of first infections symptoms. means the bone marrow is not at full strength yet (april 27-May 28=5weeks)

and this is what i think happened in that one case. he hadnt gotten over and fully recovered from his first infection before getting the second one

[squatz1]

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You understand that when they're infecting these volunteers they're doing so with a purpose in mind, right? They're trying to test different things on these people to get a vaccine to literally stop the spread of the coronavirus. They want to stop the deaths and mass infections of people.

It's not like they're just going down to a pub and sneezing on everyone to get them infected.

They're having these people in a safe environment that is separate from others and infecting them. It's not like once you're infected they just let you run around all willy nilly.

[umityesil]

The virus cannot be prevented without developing agricultural policies in the world. 

[franky1]

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You understand that when they're infecting these volunteers they're doing so with a purpose in mind, right? They're trying to test different things on these people to get a vaccine to literally stop the spread of the coronavirus. They want to stop the deaths and mass infections of people.

It's not like they're just going down to a pub and sneezing on everyone to get them infected.

They're having these people in a safe environment that is separate from others and infecting them. It's not like once you're infected they just let you run around all willy nilly.

they are not infecting people
its already been determined montha ago purposfully infecting people is against ethics and laws

the solution has been fr months to pick participants that usually are in close proximit to community/people that would have a high chance of passing a virus to them

for months now its a known and set thing that teachers and healthcare workers are the main demograph for vaccine trials because after the jab, they then go back to work/in the community and have a higher risk of getting it from the community. than say a prisoner in solitary confinement for a year

[squatz1]

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You understand that when they're infecting these volunteers they're doing so with a purpose in mind, right? They're trying to test different things on these people to get a vaccine to literally stop the spread of the coronavirus. They want to stop the deaths and mass infections of people.

It's not like they're just going down to a pub and sneezing on everyone to get them infected.

They're having these people in a safe environment that is separate from others and infecting them. It's not like once you're infected they just let you run around all willy nilly.

they are not infecting people
its already been determined montha ago purposfully infecting people is against ethics and laws

the solution has been fr months to pick participants that usually are in close proximit to community/people that would have a high chance of passing a virus to them

for months now its a known and set thing that teachers and healthcare workers are the main demograph for vaccine trials because after the jab, they then go back to work/in the community and have a higher risk of getting it from the community. than say a prisoner in solitary confinement for a year

Same sort of thing in my mind. You may not be giving them the virus, but you're not openly stopping them from getting it when you know that they're in a high risk area. But in any case, what I'm arguing is that it's not like the people in the vaccine trial are openly infecting people for some BS reason. They're doing it to try to end rona and get back to normal.

Not sure why there is so much hate over that. This shit has turned so political for literally no fucking reason.