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^ This option will not work for judges are one of the most important staff in every game. They probably face a lot of challenges if they will continue the plan like the credibility of the result for judges may only have a limited view on the game aside from possible technical issues. It may sound humane for the intention is favorable to the livelihood of all the concern however it may only be projected as a fabricated game that will give doubt to all viewers. Nevertheless, these are safe from COVID-19.
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May 08, 2020, 01:54:37 PM |
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WBC (World Boxing Council) headed by Mauricio Sulaiman of Mexico, is thinking are explorer the possibility of using remote scoring if ever they will have a sanctioned bout in this Covid-19 pandemic. The WBC is attempting to do its part to limit its number of onsite personnel. The “Remote Official Judging” rollout calls for its officials score WBC-sanctioned bouts either live from home or in a secluded area elsewhere, in lieu of being seated ringside on three separate sides of the ring as is normal industry standard. Judges will be required to wear headphones under such a plan, with the workflow as follows:
- Judges access live video/audio of the fight - Judges and WBC Supervisor log into a secure WBC portal - Judges score each round in real-time - Commission and WBC Supervisor finalize results and hand to ring announcer - WBC Supervisor transposes electronic scores to hard copy master sheet - Scores feed to site admin consolidated report
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-explores-possibility-remote-scoring-upcoming-sanctioned-bouts--148698Of course, there are still a lot of concerns here, but maybe, just maybe this will work if ever boxing will continue in this crisis. What do you guys think? Is this feasible? Looks feasible to me as long as they can implement it correctly and the game will result is fair they can go on with it, people need to watch something entertaining while in lockdown and the sports events producers need to keep their business going, it's a win-win situation for all concerns.
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May 08, 2020, 10:52:31 PM |
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WBC (World Boxing Council) headed by Mauricio Sulaiman of Mexico, is thinking are explorer the possibility of using remote scoring if ever they will have a sanctioned bout in this Covid-19 pandemic.
Of course, there are still a lot of concerns here, but maybe, just maybe this will work if ever boxing will continue in this crisis. What do you guys think? Is this feasible?
I don't think this is feasible. This is probably just the greedy Sulaiman losing patience on when to earn his next easy money. He better wait for the perfect time for boxing to resume smoothly and safely.I forgot to include this one, we all know that boxing is business and there are a lot of politics behind it. Mauricio and his father the late Jose Sulaiman will not have in power if there are no boxing politics. So maybe this is one reason why they want to protect their judges first and have them score outside of the ring. Let's see how they will overcome this kind of scoring if ever they stage a fight during his pandemic.
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May 08, 2020, 11:03:22 PM |
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Let's see how they will overcome this kind of scoring if ever they stage a fight during his pandemic.
I don't see any problem with scoring even if its online as long as people understands and accept the new system being in place. This is just to give fights for the people during this pandemic, so I don't think people would still ask more or the normal one because this better than not being able to watch boxing at all, what the promoter has to ensure is the safety of the boxers and people involve, and this fight could take place.
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May 10, 2020, 07:21:25 AM |
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I don't see any problem with scoring even if its online as long as people understands and accept the new system being in place. This is just to give fights for the people during this pandemic, so I don't think people would still ask more or the normal one because this better than not being able to watch boxing at all, what the promoter has to ensure is the safety of the boxers and people involve, and this fight could take place.
There are a lot of issues in judging when the judges are live, the judges will only see to it, that the fight will be fair even if the fight is remote, some experts analysis proves that remote judging can be accurate because they can see the fight in a replay and in many angles, but of course, I want to see how things will go after at least five fights judging on the remote.
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May 10, 2020, 08:16:27 AM |
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Interesting. Does the onsite personnel include referees? Well, guess they'll have to make this model very hard to abuse. The seclusion thing kind of makes this less transparent and easy to manipulate. The seclusion area will probably need to be built with transparent materials or/& have cameras focused on the personnel
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May 10, 2020, 10:39:39 AM |
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The pandemic will take some time the boxing industry should do something so many livelihood are defending on it, if the fights that used this guidelines proved to be successful, then every country can also do it in their local boxing events, no industry should die in this pandemic, we only need to find ways to safeguard ourselves and personnel while continuing our business.
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May 10, 2020, 06:50:52 PM |
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WBC is a big boxing organization. It involves some of the big names. They aren't that dumb to just push on something that they are not fully prepared.
Yes, still risky but that's the part of slowly back to business with lots of considerations. As you know, their workers also need to get back on work.
For me, just let them proceed, and let's see if that will be successful or not. They will not be approved after all if the Medical Dept. sees something wrong on their proposals.
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May 12, 2020, 11:58:39 PM |
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I forgot to include this one, we all know that boxing is business and there are a lot of politics behind it. Mauricio and his father the late Jose Sulaiman will not have in power if there are no boxing politics. So maybe this is one reason why they want to protect their judges first and have them score outside of the ring. Let's see how they will overcome this kind of scoring if ever they stage a fight during his pandemic. Is there any major fights they are planning to put together, but having judges score via video conference is not that bad but we need to have regular judges too, most of the time the judges in boxing comes out with shady results and hence extra judges via live video feed would be a perfect situation to overcome all these shitty judges issues, but putting everyone behind a live video feed will be a bad decision.
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May 13, 2020, 12:43:22 AM |
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I forgot to include this one, we all know that boxing is business and there are a lot of politics behind it. Mauricio and his father the late Jose Sulaiman will not have in power if there are no boxing politics. So maybe this is one reason why they want to protect their judges first and have them score outside of the ring. Let's see how they will overcome this kind of scoring if ever they stage a fight during his pandemic. Is there any major fights they are planning to put together, but having judges score via video conference is not that bad but we need to have regular judges too, most of the time the judges in boxing comes out with shady results and hence extra judges via live video feed would be a perfect situation to overcome all these shitty judges issues, but putting everyone behind a live video feed will be a bad decision. I'm not sure if there's any major fights using this scoring method, but there are talks about Golden Boy Aims For July 4 Return, Would Consider Canelo Fight Behind Closed Doors. This is going to be interesting as we all know that Canelo is the new cash cow in boxing. WBC has it's form of guidelines, but there should be at least a unified rule if ever boxing continues in this pandemic.
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May 13, 2020, 01:15:56 AM |
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I forgot to include this one, we all know that boxing is business and there are a lot of politics behind it. Mauricio and his father the late Jose Sulaiman will not have in power if there are no boxing politics. So maybe this is one reason why they want to protect their judges first and have them score outside of the ring. Let's see how they will overcome this kind of scoring if ever they stage a fight during his pandemic. Is there any major fights they are planning to put together, but having judges score via video conference is not that bad but we need to have regular judges too, most of the time the judges in boxing comes out with shady results and hence extra judges via live video feed would be a perfect situation to overcome all these shitty judges issues, but putting everyone behind a live video feed will be a bad decision. I'm not sure if there's any major fights using this scoring method, but there are talks about Golden Boy Aims For July 4 Return, Would Consider Canelo Fight Behind Closed Doors. This is going to be interesting as we all know that Canelo is the new cash cow in boxing. WBC has it's form of guidelines, but there should be at least a unified rule if ever boxing continues in this pandemic. Well if they are targeting a unified rule then I doubt that they can come up with in the next two months and implement it and let Canelo be the test subject. Of course, we like the attitude of those governing bodies in boxing trying to come up with one set of rules, but with boxing politics it might take some time, in my opinion. Maybe Golden Boy is losing lots of money (who wouldn't?) that's why they are getting everyone on-board and push the fight in July.
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May 13, 2020, 05:59:19 AM |
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I really understand that the WBC wants the boxing match to start again soon, and I'm sure we as boxing fans want it too. But with the idea of judges accessing live video of the fight it's not a good idea, because I have a hard time imagining judges in a different place. If this is done there will be many shortcomings, from technical issues to atmosphere boxing will not be fun. Better to be patient until the spread of the corona virus can be stopped and the vaccine can be found, then the boxing match can be started again. Rather than forcing to start a match without the presence of judges is very strange.
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May 13, 2020, 06:19:29 AM |
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What do you guys think? Is this feasible?
Honestly, for me it might be feasible. Actually, judges can have more ability to see the fight blow by blow on this set up since there will be no blind spot at all. For this reason, judges can deliver fairer verdicts. But of course it will only become possible if there would be high quality cameras on every corner of the ring including top view. But then again, doing such events is still not advisable at this moment. However if this is the only way they found to cut their losses then why not ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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May 13, 2020, 06:22:35 AM |
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I support this action, it will take 10 months to a year before we can find a vaccine for COVID, and the boxing industry will do everything as this is a multi-million dollar business when they can think of a way to run the business by setting up strict restrictions and follow up proven guidelines to avoid infections.
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May 13, 2020, 06:41:26 AM |
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so i think that Bob Arum can help this to become reality as he is pushing Boxing games even we are still in quarantine according to this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248072.0meaning we can now enjoy and at last can watch our favorite game and also if lucky our favorite boxers.
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May 13, 2020, 07:40:31 AM |
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If some promoter can come up with a really good card then they can conduct the fight, recently Dana White and the UFC came up with a really good fight card, they conducted everything the same way like they used to do in the past but with strict checking for the corona virus for everyone who is taking part in the event including media reporters and without any audience. The judging was the same but they might have kept the social distance and the commentary team was definitely keeping social distancing, but if they are all tested and if they are negative then there is no point in keeping distance.
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