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June 09, 2020, 12:35:16 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?



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June 09, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?



It's very easy to transfer coins from your hardware wallet to an exchange or another address ( let's say you're selling coins OTC to a buddy or someone you met online, etc).  A lot of people will also pair their hardware wallets with electrum for extra ease of use.

Personally I would recommend Trezor or Ledger.

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June 09, 2020, 01:52:20 PM
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We know that its most likely an impossible scenario to happen where btc jump 30k tomorrow and then last only for few hours and goes back to 10k.

Even bitcoin is the most volatile asset, I didn't experience or even imagine that scenario. If you are noob in trading then you are thinking like that. But if you will use some comprehension, it cannot happen. Few hours of pump? Without any buy wall or sell wall. Anyway, it is just an example.



If you will buy bitcoin, you should know your entry point and exit point as well. If you have knowledge in technical analysis, you can tell if the market has volume or not. You will know if it continues the trend or it reverse. Though not exactly what will happen, atleast you formed a conclusion in your mind.

Now, you won't regret and send your bitcoin at that amount if you know that tomorrow, it will jump 2/3x the current price. If you are really following the price action of bitcoin. It's good to transfer your funds than it will gone in exchange.

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June 09, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?
The only solution is to move the coins to the exchange you are trading when the price of bitcoin starts to rally, it is better to send the coins earlier because you should expect the network to get congested when the rally starts and only trade with a reputed exchange as i am also not comfortable keeping my coins in an exchange for a longer period of time.
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June 09, 2020, 11:21:11 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?

That would take time to transfer it from your hardware wallet to exchanges, an hour/s, or even days sometimes depending on the network traffic. Usually, traders won't use a hardware wallet for direct storage, they have another wallet to store their Bitcoins or any other coins for them to easily do the transfer and market it trades easily. This hardware wallet will only be for a long-term hold.
If you are chasing the best price you better transfer it early in preparation, not during the day you have yo sell coz you might miss it. Just like your cited scenario.

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June 10, 2020, 12:23:55 AM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?
Selling your BTC that is in your hardware wallet is still possible but the chances of selling it at your target price.. Hmmm I don't think that you can sell it.

Putting your BTC in the hardware means you are holding it for mid to long term. If you want to sell some in the future then you must keep a portion of your BTC in the exchange where you want to sell it then put the BTC you are willing to hold in a hardware wallet. If you put all of  your BTC in an hardware wallet, you can still sell it but not at your target price already since the speed of transaction in BTC is kinda slow compare to other coins unless you will put max tx fee on your transaction then you might sell it at your target price Cheesy.

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June 10, 2020, 04:38:58 AM
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I am not too familiar with the different kinds of hardware wallets, but it is still as a wallet so it is really possible to transfer your exchange money on your hardware wallet. It is a really advisable kind of wall because it is not prone to attacks compared to online wallets. As we all know when we are using online wallet we are going to connect on the internet so the possibility of attacks are big because hackers do hacking through online or internet. When you are going to use a hardware wallet, you may assure that you are keeping your bitcoin or another cryptocurrency safe.

The disadvantage of using this is when you misplaced it and you forgot where did you put it. You will get no access if that thing happens. So always put your hardware wallet in a safe place.
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June 10, 2020, 02:44:18 PM
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Seems OP thought is quite advanced. Although this is unrealistic thought but everything is possible in crypto. If incase price jump into $30K and back again into $10K within short of time then very likely you wouldn't able to sell your coins if you store your assets into hardware wallet. Because sending funds into an exchange will take time and you will not able to take advantage of it. But highly doubts that exchange will allow to make deposit on this scenarios.

But you can't take both advantage at the same time, gain instant profits from sudden volatilite and secure your fund. Storing your funds isn't safer than hardware wallet especially if you are going to holding for long time. So personally I believe  better to stroe assets on hardware wallet to secure our funds if we aren't regular traders. Because we don't know if OP's thought will happen in real life, its just a unrealistic dream IMO.
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June 10, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?


I'm not sure there is any hardware wallets that can give you any notification if Bitcoin price increase or decrease, the only advice I can give you is to download blockfolio app an create a account on the app, this app can notify you when price increase, you have to set this in the settings yourself, I'm sure you can figure that out

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June 10, 2020, 07:14:25 PM
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I'm not sure there is any hardware wallets that can give you any notification if Bitcoin price increase or decrease, the only advice I can give you is to download blockfolio app an create a account on the app, this app can notify you when price increase, you have to set this in the settings yourself, I'm sure you can figure that out
Well, this is not a problem at all if OP knows the circumstance of bitcoin price and how it works, and perhaps how to fight the volatility of bitcoin.
Transferring of bitcoin to another wallet or even on the exchange will take time if you did not pay high fees for faster transaction. But as OP said, --that is rarely happening that from $30k will drop to $20k price is just few hours.

Indeed, the coin tracker services will give you peace of mine thinking about the price of bitcoin. But for me, once I will store my bitcoin in hardware wallet it means I will save it for the long run, whatever happens, the goes is. Because I know when it will drop the price there will be the opposite reactions.









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June 10, 2020, 09:43:12 PM
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Not a problem here at all and it depends on the coin you are sending. If it's BTC, then its could take a little bit of time, but XLM, XRP, LTC confirms a lot faster.
It doesn't matter the wallet you are sending from, as long as it's a wallet.

 I see people saying hardware wallet are only for long term hold but I will disagree with them. The producers didn't state this on their website when selling. Hardware wallets only has more security and very handy anytime you're around your PC. Wallet like Mycellium also has feature to connect with hardware wallet.
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June 10, 2020, 10:03:51 PM
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what happens if I ever wanna buy? For example, let’s say BTC price jumps to 30k tomorrow but it only lasts for a few hours and it plummets back to 10k. Will I be able to sell it at all? How would I go about doing that? Would I have to transfer it back to some sort of exchange (like Coinbase)? How would I even do that?

Yeah, the problem with this is that you started in the wrong order.

You should really think more what you;re trying to achieve, with the steps in a different order
- Chose your place to buy bitcoin?
- Understand how transactions from and to exchange work?
- Understand bitcoin transactions take and what fees should you pay to get a fast confirmation

Once you're past that, if you want to exploit this hypothetical few hours period in which the price skyrocket you have to choose one path
- One I don't recommend at all, and you shouldn't do it in my opinion, like keeping your coins on an exchange with a sell order active, the moment the price hits 30k the order is executed.
- Keep your coins in your wallet, set an alarm on your smartphone, the moment it triggers you deposit your coins by paying a fee that guarantees you a first block confirmation, you sell and get your money back.

With the first, you can sleep tight because you don't need alarms, but there is always the possibility of losing all your money if the exchange is hacked or goes bust, with the second, you won't sleep if you think you might miss the moment, but at least nobody can touch your coins.

That would take time to transfer it from your hardware wallet to exchanges, an hour/s, or even days sometimes depending on the network traffic.

Really? If he pays a 1000sat/b fee, will it still take days?
If you're about to make 20k profit at least, would you cheap on for a 5-10$ fee?

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June 11, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
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Hardware wallets are good for keeping bitcoin but it takes an extended time to transact here and therefore the fees are high. once you move from a hardware wallet to a different wallet you only need to select the wallet you would like to stay in it but there's not much time from other sites However many reliable wallets are hardware wallets there's no fear of cash being stolen.

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