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Author Topic: Vod sending incompetent trust rating to me and few more legal sellers / buyers!  (Read 519 times)
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May 16, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
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So yes, they're scamming Amazon.
In this particular case, I'll take your word for it

Well, that wasn't my intent Grin

Anyone willing to verify it - all you need to do is try to create an AWS account anonymously (hint: you can't) and then decide if creating an account with fake personal/billing info is a scam or not. I think using deception to obtain a service is pretty much the definition of fraud, and reselling that service means profiting from fraud.

Edit: I guess another possibility is to believe that the account seller is using their own (not fake) personal info when creating those accounts but I don't believe that.
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May 16, 2020, 10:53:18 PM
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This forum is not the only place the OP has been pulling this scam.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/amazon-ses-50k-account-sales-continuous-sale.1192955/

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May 17, 2020, 01:36:12 AM
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Vod, get a life and stop abusing the fucking trust system. You guys are the worst, fucking up this place with your nonsense. We are not scamming any individuals here. Never did. That's all I had to say to you.

Listen idiots (excluding Direwolfm14), Amazon is well-aware of the situation. How do I know that?

1. Amazon fingerprint like crazy. They know it's "you" regardless of any information you provide to them.
2. Service quotas are renewed regularly, so they let you go, and approve your requests, still knowing it's "you."

Finally, even they do not fucking care about the bills and they would just suspend your account and leave it.

No one buys these accounts to spam shit. How would they convert these emails into sales otherwise? Most do CPA and some even attach credits to their accounts.

Anyways, these unwarranted tags will not impact shit. SES is nothing new and many people including me have been doing it for years. Everyone is in each other's contacts. But here at Bitcointalk some loafer will always have reason to abuse trust system.
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May 17, 2020, 06:53:11 AM
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This forum is not the only place the OP has been pulling this scam.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/amazon-ses-50k-account-sales-continuous-sale.1192955/

Are you mad dumb, Vod? Why you think its me? I have never had any sale thread at BHW and this particular user who was banned there is at this forum also under multiple alt accounts like digitaloceansales, googlecloud1000, rambobaba488, amazonses50k etc.
At some thread he even admits it, but I am too lazy to proove you something because as I see, you are just dumb. Enjoy your life by abusing trust system - just to let you know, I still have buyers and I still do it - no one cares about your e-balls what you try to grow, oldie.

To all others who thinks this is so scam - how it is scam? It is not a scam by anyway, if I register accounts. My clients are adding their own credintals to accounts and paying bills. AWS does not ask KYC. For creating accounts, I do not use no one elses data or credit card, but my own generated card from bank. How its illegal? UH, its not.
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May 17, 2020, 07:42:42 AM
Last edit: May 17, 2020, 08:05:07 AM by Golgoth
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So yes, they're scamming Amazon.
In this particular case, I'll take your word for it

Well, that wasn't my intent Grin

Anyone willing to verify it - all you need to do is try to create an AWS account anonymously (hint: you can't) and then decide if creating an account with fake personal/billing info is a scam or not. I think using deception to obtain a service is pretty much the definition of fraud, and reselling that service means profiting from fraud.

Edit: I guess another possibility is to believe that the account seller is using their own (not fake) personal info when creating those accounts but I don't believe that.
You're encouraging trust feedback abuses by this kind of dubious justifications. I hope you're not doing that yourself  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed
It's a fraudulent hijacking of the trust feedback system.





And you mentioned that these sorts of shenanigans give bitcointalk a bad name, and I agree with that.  
IMO You are a little bit naive if you think people are willing to use bitcoin for buying children's toys or pizzas...  Roll Eyes
Paypal is already here for that, with fewer fees.
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May 17, 2020, 10:13:20 AM
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To the three posters above: selling an account, which then gets suspended specifically because of the transaction, and refusing to refund the account constitutes as a scam. I don't know if you guys are crackpots or just dumb but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

You're encouraging trust feedback abuses by this kind of dubious justifications. I hope you're not doing that yourself  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed
It's a fraudulent hijacking of the trust feedback system.

Wrong. Tagging high-risk people before they are able to scam is an appropriate use of the trust system.

Think of it another way if you saw a high yield investment program with stupidly high return rates, it's appropriate to tag them before they are able to steal people's money.

To all others who thinks this is so scam - how it is scam? It is not a scam by anyway, if I register accounts. My clients are adding their own credintals to accounts and paying bills. AWS does not ask KYC. For creating accounts, I do not use no one elses data or credit card, but my own generated card from bank. How its illegal? UH, its not.

Then why would people want to buy your accounts if they can just add their own credentials for free??

Hint: Given that you were banned in blackhatworld maybe it turns out that people can go to support and add SES limit by themselves. It's better than pointlessly buying your accounts and them getting deleted by Amazon and you definitely aren't going to provide warranty or refund them are you. No need to deny this. even your buddy admits this is true.

Finally, even they do not fucking care about the bills and they would just suspend your account and leave it.

Here's a thread of someones SES account getting deleted because of buying it https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/scammed-by-seo-aka-annon-fenon-skype.893409/#post-9491093

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May 17, 2020, 12:11:53 PM
Last edit: May 17, 2020, 12:29:43 PM by Golgoth
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You're encouraging trust feedback abuses by this kind of dubious justifications. I hope you're not doing that yourself  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed
It's a fraudulent hijacking of the trust feedback system.

Wrong. Tagging high-risk people before they are able to scam is an appropriate use of the trust system.
I agree with you but you must provide solid elements for that and not tagging people with 0 explanations like that, moreover what you are saying here is your own opinion on the case, until now I understand he has tagged him for scamming Amazon.

Think of it another way if you saw a high yield investment program with stupidly high return rates, it's appropriate to tag them before they are able to steal people's money.
Where have you seen that please? Every economists call Bitcoin a ponzi and a pump and dump scheme, you're willing to tag all users here?  Cheesy  Cheesy
An HYIP would only be a scam if it presents itself as a safe investment. There is even a section for them here :
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