I am sick of this...

[LTU_btc]

Well, it's online forum where people comes from all corners of world, from different social tiers, culture, education and every have their point of view. It's impossible to have perfect forum without these kind of people. Same like in real life - you can't like every person who is around you.
1. What do you expect when we have signature campaigns? Some people obviously came here just for money and it's nothing strange that they are posting as much as they can to maximize their earnings.
2. Sometimes it's just pointless to discuss with some people and any of your arguments will not work. For people who are saying that earth is flath, you can't prove that they are wrong, no matter what you say, they will just deny all facts. So, it's better not to waste your time sometimes.
3. I don't know about it, I haven't noticed such things. Maybe it's not worth to pay attention to these wannabe bosses .

You can report these, if they get deleted (they often do), they can't get paid for that post.

I think such posts usually isn't bad enough to be deleted. It doesn't break. any rules, it's not off-topic. It's just generic post made just to reach sig. campaign weekly posting quota.

[Natalim]

3) Bosses                :   Just look at my rank/merits/green trust, you should be grateful that I commented on your thread.

I don't see see someone doing this, nor say to myself that I am a high rank and I should be respective, we all live and follow the forum rules, that's what matters, and if the post is not quality, that's the job of the campaign manager to check but if its a spam, its the forum mods job to check.

When any serious participant find your topic (which was already hijacked by above mentioned guys with tens of pages), he will be like oh!
So many people already replied and they might have covered the point I want to make so lets leave it.

LOL.

That depends on the topic actually, if such topic is like sports related like the NBA thread in the gambling discussion, everyday I see a lot of post but its substantial post as everyday there's always a new update and news regarding NBA.

[notblox1]

Now that we know you are sick of replies and posts it would be nice to hear some propositions from you.
How would you improve bitcointalk forum?

There are also some quiet parts in the forum, if that is what you are looking form.
Explore a bit more.

[Csmiami]

You can report these, if they get deleted (they often do), they can't get paid for that post.

I think such posts usually isn't bad enough to be deleted. It doesn't break. any rules, it's not off-topic. It's just generic post made just to reach sig. campaign weekly posting quota.

That my friend, is called spam and it does go against the forum rules.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

I was actually going to let this one fo, but then I re-read your whole post, and your first statement.... maybe saying that's everything that's wrong in the forum is over-stepping; but I think it's not really far away from it.

1. What do you expect when we have signature campaigns? Some people obviously came here just for money and it's nothing strange that they are posting as much as they can to maximize their earnings.

You get paid because you post; you don't post because you get paid. The line between these 2 sentences might seem blurry, but it's really clear most times. The first one is, in prinicple, okay; but the second one leads to spam (as you have pointed out in the above statement). I'm quite surprised to see that mentality in an account as old as yours; because it's the typical incentive of "how do I earn merits?" questions from newbies that have come here only to earn money from Bounties, but every person has it's own circunstances, and I'm not judging that.

[Natalim]

And to add..


Actually the forum is popular because we have a lot of users here, with only few number of moderators it's hard to maintain that all post quality can only be seen, that is why as a member we also have some responsibility to report spam post for the good for the good of the forum.

And for OP.. I suggest that he will start using the ...

Now that we know you are sick of replies and posts it would be nice to hear some propositions from you.
How would you improve bitcointalk forum?

There are also some quiet parts in the forum, if that is what you are looking form.
Explore a bit more.

[Chrystora123]

I gave a little percentage from what I noticed..

1) Laborers            :   Reply just for the sake of increasing signature campaign posts. They will jumble words and consciously stretch the
                                  sentences. They do not care about the quality of argument.

50% poster

2) Overcomplicaters :   They will test any argument on Cartesian certainty, no matter how sound your argument may be but they will oppose it
                                   with tooth and nail.  

35% posters

Oh don't take it all that personal, mate. They have the right to speak. You have the right to not listen.

I don't think the OP thinks it's personal..  he/she created this topic because was concerned about the reality that was happening..  

[LTU_btc]

You can report these, if they get deleted (they often do), they can't get paid for that post.
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That my friend, is called spam and it does go against the forum rules.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

I was actually going to let this one fo, but then I re-read your whole post, and your first statement.... maybe saying that's everything that's wrong in the forum is over-stepping; but I think it's not really far away from it.

1. What do you expect when we have signature campaigns? Some people obviously came here just for money and it's nothing strange that they are posting as much as they can to maximize their earnings.

You get paid because you post; you don't post because you get paid. The line between these 2 sentences might seem blurry, but it's really clear most times. The first one is, in prinicple, okay; but the second one leads to spam (as you have pointed out in the above statement). I'm quite surprised to see that mentality in an account as old as yours; because it's the typical incentive of "how do I earn merits?" questions from newbies that have come here only to earn money from Bounties, but every person has it's own circunstances, and I'm not judging that.

First of all, sorry if my post will be formatted not very well because I'm on mobile. About reporting such posts, I know what I'm talking about from my personal and other users experience. I don't talk about one liners and similar shitpsts. I'm more about generic posts which you can see in Bitcoin discussion, Speculation or Gambling boards. Usually it's few generic sentences which are related to topic. But in many cases they repeat what was said already or they are talking without much knowledge about subject. Try to report such posts and you will see that mods won't delete it.
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see big difference between get paid because you post and post because you get paid, it's more just playing with words. As long as we have signature campaigns, people will be incentivized to post. But it's not always bad and it don't cause just spamming. Signature campaigns also is reason of quality posting, best example of it is Chipmixer. And I'm not sure how you can judge my mentality just from few sentences...

[Chlotide]

First of all, sorry if my post will be formatted not very well because I'm on mobile. About reporting such posts, I know what I'm talking about from my personal and other users experience. I don't talk about one liners and similar shitpsts. I'm more about generic posts which you can see in Bitcoin discussion, Speculation or Gambling boards. Usually it's few generic sentences which are related to topic. But in many cases they repeat what was said already or they are talking without much knowledge about subject. Try to report such posts and you will see that mods won't delete it.

I see your point and you maybe right but If the post you report is from a long thread I would assume a mod would need to skim through tens or hundreds of posts to reach the conclusions that it's just a repetitive sig spam. Giving some examples might help I suppose like "low value repeating sig spam please see post 123 125 and 130"
Not saying it's the winning strategy but might have a bit more success imo.
Don't give up

[Csmiami]

First of all, sorry if my post will be formatted not very well because I'm on mobile.

No worries, we've all been there.

About reporting such posts, I know what I'm talking about from my personal and other users experience. I don't talk about one liners and similar shitpsts. I'm more about generic posts which you can see in Bitcoin discussion, Speculation or Gambling boards. Usually it's few generic sentences which are related to topic. But in many cases they repeat what was said already or they are talking without much knowledge about subject. Try to report such posts and you will see that mods won't delete it.

I do report those posts, and they do usually get deleted. Even if it's a bit on topic, it's a low value post that adds pretty much 0 to the discussion, and as such I consider them to be spam. Those generic posts have only value to the user making them, and if the post itself was not monetized, that post wouldn't have been made in first place. Putting it in another way... if the post is there because the user is getting paid for it, and otherwise it wouldn't exist-->spam post

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see big difference between get paid because you post and post because you get paid, it's more just playing with words. As long as we have signature campaigns, people will be incentivized to post. But it's not always bad and it don't cause just spamming. Signature campaigns also is reason of quality posting, best example of it is Chipmixer.

On the first case (posting and getting paid for it), you don't alter your posting habits because of the payments. You post what you post on the boards you enjoy, and would do it getting paid or not.
On the second case (getting paid for posting), you only post because of the payment. You post in places you wouldn't if you didn't get paid for doing so, and most of those replies are generic answers that don't really add much to the conversation.

We could argue that signature campaigns make some users do an effort and improve their posting, but that's not what happens in most of the cases. The CM is the perfect example of what I mean with "users posting and getting paid". Most of the selected users did already contribute in a substantial way to the forum; and most of them will still do it even if they didn't get paid for each post they made. It's not that they are good posters because they are in the campaign; but they are in the campaign because they are good posters.

And I'm not sure how you can judge my mentality just from few sentences...

That why I said I wasn't doing that

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Generic posts are usually very easy to spot; just reporting them and adding some kind of "low value signature spam post" will get the job done in most of the cases

[skarais]

1) Laborers             :   Reply just for the sake of increasing signature campaign posts. They will jumble words and consciously stretch the
                                  sentences. They do not care about the quality of argument.

Most spam posts are done by signature participants whose purpose is only to fulfill weekly quota without caring about the quality of posts. If so, use the function (report post to moderator) or delete posts that have low value if you start a self-moderated topic.

2) Overcomplicaters :   They will test any argument on Cartesian certainty, no matter how sound your argument may be but they will oppose it
                                   with tooth and nail.

Hair is not the same black, and thoughts and understanding can of course be different. But if its a troll, then you dont need to feed it. Discuss if its only with people who have slightly different opinions or those who dont understand, ignore if its a troll.

3) Bosses                :   Just look at my rank/merits/green trust, you should be grateful that I commented on your thread.

Forum are places that uphold the principle of democracy, anyone is free to talk. Bosses are not kings but I will consider them to be established members if their opinion can complement and add to our horizons. Be thankful if it will open our mind, but good bosses usually dont show their fangs and strength because people already appreciate them even though sometimes they also need to (depending on need).

[Mpamaegbu]

OP, while the first and third classifications of yours are valid irritants I honestly don't think number two should be any problem. You see? No man is an island. Except you don't take a fancy to someone differing to your opinion or you abhor constructive criticism, I don't see how this should be a problem. Let's take a gander at this - Do you think there would've being a thing as the crypto industry if Satoshi didn't find the urge to differ to popular opinion on finance and the economy?