Natural corona virus immunity sky rockets.

[BADecker]

^^^ It's good if it's increasing. Most of the people that have it aren't sick at all. They're keeping us penned up for nothing.

[Subbir]

With the rise within the number of corona viruses there's not any fear among the people due to the lockdown most are moving as they please we've not yet discovered a vaccine to fight the virus We aren't in the least sure whether the vaccine for Covid-19 will begin in the least. Can't get out albeit a vaccine does begin it's impossible to ensure that it'll pass all the tests before it comes on the market.

[Febo]

I think world is moving towards herd immunity as virus has infected almost the majority of people by now it is just that most of the people were asymptomatic and some got mild sick while percentage of serious or hospitalized people is very very small so untill this immunity maintains we are safe but we do not know for how long.

We as a whole world are far from herd immunity. I saw some research it said that about 30% of population is needed for herd immunity. I doubt there is few % of people on earth immune right now.  Yes on some parts of world like Lombard or New York immunity is close to 30% but in most part of the world is not even 1%.

[Naida_BR]

The numbers of confirmed cases of the corona virus are sky rocketing around the world, and the count of "cured" cases is over 50% of the infections. Given that there is a delay of many days between the "cure" and the reported infection, the real percentage must be much higher, probably over 70%. If you factor in the number of people who were infected, but didn't have any real symptoms before they were "cured". Then the real figure could well be over the 85% that were predicted to be able to overcome the virus via their own immune system. None of these people will require a vaccination, and one can sense the desperation in the pharmaceutical industry as they see this cash cow vanishing before they can push another poisonous vaccination onto us.

All of their attempts to stop the spread of the virus are aimed at avoiding the exponential increase in natural immunity, as there is obviously no profit in this. I gather there are now six strains of the virus, and some virologists are saying that we will have to accept it as part of future life in the same way as we accept the 'flu virus. They haven't managed to find a vaccine for the rhino virus, and that seems to be much simpler than the corona virus. We have lived with the corona virus for decades, and it will no doubt stay with us for many more.

I have started to believe that all this buzz around covid and the fact that media tries to make people believe that it is a deadly virus has started to happen because there is a huge vaccine production right now on going.
The have to pursue somehow the people that they have to be vaccinated in order to be safe from the virus and make pharmacheuticals rich.

[madnessteat]

We as a whole world are far from herd immunity. I saw some research it said that about 30% of population is needed for herd immunity. I doubt there is few % of people on earth immune right now.  Yes on some parts of world like Lombard or New York immunity is close to 30% but in most part of the world is not even 1%.

And I read that about 60-70% of the population must be affected by the virus to develop collective immunity. It's a pity that we won't know what percentage of people have already got sick because the number of false-positives and false-negative test results can't be precisely determined.

[yhiaali3]

It seems that some countries, including the government of the country in which I live, have taken a herd immunity method to fight the growing Corona virus on a daily basis. This method is of course much easier and does not cost the government much money nor does it cause the economy to crash. Therefore people should live with this virus for a long time and accept it as part of their life and try to increase their immunity to fight the virus instead of waiting for the vaccine that may never come.

[Febo]

We as a whole world are far from herd immunity. I saw some research it said that about 30% of population is needed for herd immunity. I doubt there is few % of people on earth immune right now.  Yes on some parts of world like Lombard or New York immunity is close to 30% but in most part of the world is not even 1%.

And I read that about 60-70% of the population must be affected by the virus to develop collective immunity. It's a pity that we won't know what percentage of people have already got sick because the number of false-positives and false-negative test results can't be precisely determined.

60% are some usually average for viruses. But it differs for every virus. For some you would need 90% for some 20%. There were some researches made a month ago and their results shown we are very lucky with covid-19 since to achieve herd immunity only 30% of population need to be immune. Of course no such results are tested enough, since covid-19 exist only half year.

[BADecker]

We as a whole world are far from herd immunity. I saw some research it said that about 30% of population is needed for herd immunity. I doubt there is few % of people on earth immune right now.  Yes on some parts of world like Lombard or New York immunity is close to 30% but in most part of the world is not even 1%.

And I read that about 60-70% of the population must be affected by the virus to develop collective immunity. It's a pity that we won't know what percentage of people have already got sick because the number of false-positives and false-negative test results can't be precisely determined.

60% are some usually average for viruses. But it differs for every virus. For some you would need 90% for some 20%. There were some researches made a month ago and their results shown we are very lucky with covid-19 since to achieve herd immunity only 30% of population need to be immune. Of course no such results are tested enough, since covid-19 exist only half year.

The problem with this thinking is:
1. The Chinese identification of Covid was not done correctly; therefore we don't have any accurate identification;
2. Since Covid matches SARS like 80%, it has probably been around for two decades;
3. Herd immunity has been achieved around the world for essentially 2 decades or more;
4. The numbers are total misinformation manipulation of the numbers; you can tell by finding out how the numbers were treated at different times over the last 6 months.


Big Holes in the Covid 'Spike' Narrative

A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact the "spike" that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a "Covid-19 death" even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the "spike" in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

[Febo]

The problem with this thinking is:

There is no thinking. There was a research done and I read it. But I am to lazy to now go and find pdf of it. Problem is as I said that such researched has to be reviewed a lot.  And only time can help with that. In half year that cant happen.

[madnessteat]

60% are some usually average for viruses. But it differs for every virus. For some you would need 90% for some 20%. There were some researches made a month ago and their results shown we are very lucky with covid-19 since to achieve herd immunity only 30% of population need to be immune. Of course no such results are tested enough, since covid-19 exist only half year.

We also know that the coronavirus is an RNA virus that mutates very quickly. That's why I wouldn't trust the information about 30% as the virus can vary dramatically in different countries.

[radjie]

It seems that some countries, including the government of the country in which I live, have taken a herd immunity method to fight the growing Corona virus on a daily basis. This method is of course much easier and does not cost the government much money nor does it cause the economy to crash. Therefore people should live with this virus for a long time and accept it as part of their life and try to increase their immunity to fight the virus instead of waiting for the vaccine that may never come.

This might be done by the government so that people do not easily panic and stress facing this pandemic, because usually people who are easily stressed are very vulnerable to disease. While we are all waiting for the vaccine to be made by experts, it is better to carry out activities as usual and follow the recommendations set by the government with existing health protocol standards so that the economy is better and can meet daily needs

[electronicash]

do you think that if a person believe he has immunity and the virus is fake, he has the shield from catching it?  what you can do is wear protective gears if possible and improve you health by eating healthy and vitamins for protection.

someone in our house doesn't care about getting infected so we allow him to go out and freely walk around to the marketplace but he just can't go back inside the house. there is a cabin we build long time ago, it must be good to quarantine himself all his life. now he has to cook for himself.

[Jet Cash]

It seems to be pretty much accepted that 95% of the population will not have serious problems when they are infected with the corona virus. It would also seem that almost everybody has been or will be infected at some stage in the not too distant future. Natural immunity in a healthy person lasts for in excess of 17 years - that is the furthest back they can go to check, so it is probably a lifetime immunity. Fake vaccines are expected to give limited immunity for less than a year, and will require regular " top ups".

95% of the population has been adversely affected by the economic measures imposed by governments, and the resulting deaths would appear to be in excess of the genuine ones that can be attributed to the virus.

So in summary, if you are at least half way healthy, then you should get a mild infection during the summer months, and build a natural immunity before the monkey face masked brigade get their winter infections.

Please note, I have no medical training and I haven't been indoctrinated by the Pharma propaganda. I'm just a practical guy who likes to delve behind the sheeple fodder.

[Vod]

I think world is moving towards herd immunity as virus has infected almost the majority of people by now

??  Where did you dream that up?

Recent news out of the UK indicates the virus does permanent damage to many organs other than the lungs.  Other news is antibodies are only effective for 3-6 months.

19 will become another seasonal illness like the flu, until the current strain dies out and the evolution is no longer harmful to humans.  Could take years or centuries!

There will be no herd immunity - just like the flu. 

[BADecker]

The problem with this thinking is:

There is no thinking. There was a research done and I read it. But I am to lazy to now go and find pdf of it. Problem is as I said that such researched has to be reviewed a lot.  And only time can help with that. In half year that cant happen.

Did you understand what you read?

Did the researchers filter the fluids they withdrew from the sick or dead people properly?

Did they properly separate the various substances that they filtered?

Were they able to grow the isolate in a petrie dish?

Were they able to compare what they grew to the filtered substance to see if they really grew the thing that they originally filtered?

Did they "inject" the substance into another living "person" to see if they could get the new subject to become sick?

Did they withdraw fluids from the subject they made sick, filter them, and isolate exactly the same substance they had isolated from the first subject?

Did their report go into enough detail to show exactly how they did what they did?

Can you find the literal people who did the research? That is, did they sign their reports, and can you actually locate them in the medical lab wherein they did the worked, in case you want to question them about some aspect of their work?

For starters, check the "Koch's postulates" article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%27s_postulates. Go 2/3 down the page and look at the things that have to be checked for in the 21st Century. Then search for the River's updating of Koch's postulates to see the path that needs to be followed to make sure that everything was done correctly so that the wrong substance wasn't identified.

Did you get that deep into it? Others have, and have found the reports lacking in many areas.