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July 27, 2020, 07:25:42 PM
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I feel like the best way we could continue with this input from the really rich people would be to make sure that we do not allow them to do anything we can't do, and we should just follow them.

Buy when they buy, sell when they sell, long when they long and short when they short, be ready for whatever they "might" do in the future and always be on their toes, otherwise they will destroy all of us and take all of our money once again here too just like they do in the fiat world and we can't allow something like that to happen here as well. They are both a great help to us, but they are also a great threat to us as well, it is not a world where we could be friends with billionaires or companies with that much money, they will never accept us as part of them but bitcoin gives as an advantage.

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August 08, 2020, 05:56:09 PM
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since 2017, the cryptocurrency market has changed a lot and one of the most important achievements in the cryptocurrency market is futures trading. It seems to me that it is the availability of futures on the cryptocurrency market that makes it possible to organize arbitrage trading to the right extent. As for institutional investors, the infrastructure is gradually being created in the cryptocurrency market, for example, the Huobi Group has launched an over-the-counter platform for large players. At the same time, BitGo created a clearing system of a similar level. I believe that it was the current transfer that was marked by a very strong relationship between the stock and cryptocurrency markets.
During the pandemic cryptocurrency has become a view of people as a good asset storage for new people. In my view, the increase in investors is happening. I am sure there will be many new projects in the community's view because this game is only a term and they know the risk will be borne by themselves. is a good and advanced future for cryptocurrency in this pandemic. Popularity will develop fast


During the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.


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August 08, 2020, 08:41:37 PM
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off course they invest in  couse this news that they are investing makes the investors FOMO.
OFF COURSE they invest if they know the price will go up lol



its funny...when btc was down there was so many bad news about btc Cheesy like restrictions and blabla...they got it with bargain price now they tell guys crypto is good its so bullsih go and invest buy the top...they say that idiots come and give us your money we are the big wall street players we want to be richer ....now its green light btc is so bullish wait when btc will hit to 20k  i think it will be all over news cnn bbbc and every where suckers coming in with money lol
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August 09, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
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During the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.

Under such circumstances, they are not going to trust fiat cash either. With the federal debt at historic highs, only idiots would keep their wealth in fiat cash. For me, the only safe asset seems to be bullion. I am talking about physical gold, and not about paper gold managed by the banks and other financial institutions. If you want to keep your wealth securely, then gold bars/coins seems to be the best option as of now.
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August 11, 2020, 05:04:59 AM
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During the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.

Under such circumstances, they are not going to trust fiat cash either. With the federal debt at historic highs, only idiots would keep their wealth in fiat cash. For me, the only safe asset seems to be bullion. I am talking about physical gold, and not about paper gold managed by the banks and other financial institutions. If you want to keep your wealth securely, then gold bars/coins seems to be the best option as of now.

   While many people lost jobs, and many businesses are almost dead, some companies are making profit, and they are looking
for new investment opportunities. I didn't hear anyone complain in pharmaceutical and telecommunication sectors. This would be
good for researching, to see the top gainers during pandemic, and top losers. If we had some statistic about that, we would
have a better picture about money flow in last months.



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August 14, 2020, 06:58:37 PM
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That’s a very thorough study. Capital flowing into crypto market from so many institutional investors might definitely mean an uptrend for all the crypto assets out there. And then everyone would want a piece of it sooner or later. I am surprised to see that almost above 30% investors looked at the innovative technology and the high potential. I did not expect the number to be above 15-20%.

I agree that volatility and market manipulation is the main reason that is stopping many investors from getting their feet into this market but there is one other major reason that is no set of regulations have been made clear by the government.
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August 14, 2020, 07:38:47 PM
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I would think it's an excellent thing in general if I believed that these large institutional investors would be owning actual cryptocurrency--bitcoin in particular.  But there's less than 21 million coins in circulation, and if you're a fund with really deep pockets you wouldn't be able to buy a huge stake in bitcoin without driving the price up and nearly cornering the market. 

What I think is going to happen with all of this money is that it's going to be invested in derivatives, like those offered by Bakkt and the like.  You can buy and sell a lot of options without affecting the price directly, so I think that's what the institutions are going to do.

This discussion sort of reminds me of this recent thread, which is about a company that decided to keep its cash reserves in the form of bitcoin--and they bought a lot of it, which I thought was a pretty risky move on their part.  Interestingly enough, MSTR's stock price is up over 6% today, so it doesn't appear that there's going to be a shareholder revolt because of this. 

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August 14, 2020, 09:53:30 PM
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I don't know what is considered a huge stake but if we take Microstrategy since you mention the company, they bought 21k BTC and it didn't do anything on the price (I think the price even dropped a bit). I don't think institutional investors will influence the price a lot since they won't buy in mass in 1 shot (if they have a sain brain).

What is weird with the latest news on MSTR, and nobody talked about it, is the fact they bought only bitcoin,s we could have expected diversity in their investment... it's a pretty serious risk to bet it all on Bitcoin.

That was the same day the news was out by the way



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good for researching, to see the top gainers during pandemic, and top losers. If we had some statistic about that, we would
have a better picture about money flow in last months.

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August 15, 2020, 08:33:39 PM
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Yes Bitcoin is growing, some people might not know that, but it is the truth. Recently I have got lots of people asking me about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and how they can be part of it, like there are so many people who are always talking about it than before.

It’s really cool, and I like the fact that a lot of people are starting to recognize it. If it was before when I ask people if they know Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, they always say no, but this time around it’s like everyone knows about it, even though they are not part of it, they still know about it and that’s really cool. Although from what I have seen, some of them are still being reluctant about it because it is volatile.

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