Two officers shot after Breonna Taylor case sparks protest

[squatz1]

Just read this on the WSJ, which is one of the reasons that I'm coming here to talk about this. I think that most people know the case surrounding Taylor, but what's newsworthy about today is that one office was indicted though they weren't indicted on charges directly relating to killiong Taylor. B/c of this, protests and violence has engulfed the city.

Two police officers in Louisville have been shot and are getting treatment in the hospital. Totally not the reaction you'd want to see, though in this day and age I think it's (sadly) expected for this sort of thing to turn to violence.

Thoughts on the situation?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/breonna-taylor-decision-expected-wednesday-11600880814?mod=hp_lead_pos4

[Gyfts]

The Breonna Taylor case is interesting and it's complex and I would really wish people did their research into what actually happened in the shooting.


What the facts actually are:

Breonna Taylor was under suspicion by LMPD due to being complicit in alleged drug trade between a friend of hers named Jamarcus Glover, whom a family lawyer claims she had a "passive" relationship with. This began all the way in 2016 when a dead body was found in Breonna Taylor's rental car. The body of this person was the brother of someone that was associated with Glover. Taylor, neither Glover were charged for this murder.

Fast forward to January 2020. Glover was under surveillance by the LMPD which had planted a GPS tracker on his car. It was observed 6 times that he had visited Breonna Taylor's residence, combined with over 27 phone records of outgoing calls by Glover to Taylor when he was in prison previously over a period spanning from 2016 to 2020. Given these connections, LMPD had reason to believe there coordination between Glover and Breonna Taylor. The residence was placed under camera surveillance and through a camera on a telephone pole, they observed Glover transport a suspicious USPS package from the Breonna Taylor residence and take it to a drug house location that was determined to commonly be used for drug transactions. From this, LMPD believe there was drug activity going on at the Taylor residence.

On January 3rd, Glover had made a phone call to Breonna Taylor after he got arrested for charges that're a mile long, and asked Taylor to get bail money from someone who was a co-defendant on the same charges that Glover faced -- Breonna Taylor told Glover that this person was "at the Trap" aka a drug house, and during this phone call, both Glover and Taylor said they loved each other. What does this mean? This means Taylor presumably knew about a potential drug house, and that the relationship between Glover and Taylor was not merely "passive". She clearly had to have known Glover was deeply involved in drug trades prior to his arrest.

Now fast forward to March 13th, when Taylor died. Glover was arrested on the same day at another drug house and made outgoing calls which imo, verify that he and Breonna Taylor were complicit in drug trades. Glover claimed to his current girlfriend during a recorded prison call that Taylor was the one that handled his money and that Taylor had 8000 dollars of his when she died that he could not locate and that she had also "picked up another six" thousand dollars that were no where to be found. In this call, Glover expressed confusion as to why the police would raid Taylor's home citing that the fact there weren't many connections him and Taylor, to which point the person he was talking to claimed they had connections through the dead body found in the rental car, bail bonds, ect.  With all this considered, the warrant had Taylor, Glover, and another associate of Glover's name on it, the address was correct, and by all the public information, the warrant was legitimate. Police had executed the warrant, and according to the KY Attorney General, the police knocked and announced themselves. While trying to break down the door, the the boyfriend of Taylor at the time (Kenneth Walker) shot a "warning shot" (according to him) and ended up shooting a Sgt. in the leg. The police returned fire, and Taylor got caught up in the crossfire.

It's a tragic situation, but the amount of misinformation that's been spread is palpable. The police were justified to return fire after serving a legal and legitimate warrant, but people are still peddling propaganda like "Taylor was not on the warrant", "Wrong house", "she was asleep", ect. Under no circumstances were any of these officers going to be charged with murder, yet for some reason, these people are out rioting as if it was a miscarriage of justice.  And then what happens? You have police officers shot in fits of rage by people thinking that the officers involved in Taylor's death got off. A grand jury chose not to indict, what more do people want?

Kamala Harris claimed the Taylor family deserved justice, so I'm glad she's able to turn down the temperature when it matters. Just wonderful stuff. I'm sure the rioting that's going on in Louisville right now is going to help the Biden campaign because it's those suburban voters that just love violent rioting.

[squatz1]

The Breonna Taylor case is interesting and it's complex and I would really wish people did their research into what actually happened in the shooting.


What the facts actually are:

Breonna Taylor was under suspicion by LMPD due to being complicit in alleged drug trade between a friend of hers named Jamarcus Glover, whom a family lawyer claims she had a "passive" relationship with. This began all the way in 2016 when a dead body was found in Breonna Taylor's rental car. The body of this person was the brother of someone that was associated with Glover. Taylor, neither Glover were charged for this murder.

Fast forward to January 2020. Glover was under surveillance by the LMPD which had planted a GPS tracker on his car. It was observed 6 times that he had visited Breonna Taylor's residence, combined with over 27 phone records of outgoing calls by Glover to Taylor when he was in prison previously over a period spanning from 2016 to 2020. Given these connections, LMPD had reason to believe there coordination between Glover and Breonna Taylor. The residence was placed under camera surveillance and through a camera on a telephone pole, they observed Glover transport a suspicious USPS package from the Breonna Taylor residence and take it to a drug house location that was determined to commonly be used for drug transactions. From this, LMPD believe there was drug activity going on at the Taylor residence.

On January 3rd, Glover had made a phone call to Breonna Taylor after he got arrested for charges that're a mile long, and asked Taylor to get bail money from someone who was a co-defendant on the same charges that Glover faced -- Breonna Taylor told Glover that this person was "at the Trap" aka a drug house, and during this phone call, both Glover and Taylor said they loved each other. What does this mean? This means Taylor presumably knew about a potential drug house, and that the relationship between Glover and Taylor was not merely "passive". She clearly had to have known Glover was deeply involved in drug trades prior to his arrest.

Now fast forward to March 13th, when Taylor died. Glover was arrested on the same day at another drug house and made outgoing calls which imo, verify that he and Breonna Taylor were complicit in drug trades. Glover claimed to his current girlfriend during a recorded prison call that Taylor was the one that handled his money and that Taylor had 8000 dollars of his when she died that he could not locate and that she had also "picked up another six" thousand dollars that were no where to be found. In this call, Glover expressed confusion as to why the police would raid Taylor's home citing that the fact there weren't many connections him and Taylor, to which point the person he was talking to claimed they had connections through the dead body found in the rental car, bail bonds, ect.  With all this considered, the warrant had Taylor, Glover, and another associate of Glover's name on it, the address was correct, and by all the public information, the warrant was legitimate. Police had executed the warrant, and according to the KY Attorney General, the police knocked and announced themselves. While trying to break down the door, the the boyfriend of Taylor at the time (Kenneth Walker) shot a "warning shot" (according to him) and ended up shooting a Sgt. in the leg. The police returned fire, and Taylor got caught up in the crossfire.

It's a tragic situation, but the amount of misinformation that's been spread is palpable. The police were justified to return fire after serving a legal and legitimate warrant, but people are still peddling propaganda like "Taylor was not on the warrant", "Wrong house", "she was asleep", ect. Under no circumstances were any of these officers going to be charged with murder, yet for some reason, these people are out rioting as if it was a miscarriage of justice.  And then what happens? You have police officers shot in fits of rage by people thinking that the officers involved in Taylor's death got off. A grand jury chose not to indict, what more do people want?

Kamala Harris claimed the Taylor family deserved justice, so I'm glad she's able to turn down the temperature when it matters. Just wonderful stuff. I'm sure the rioting that's going on in Louisville right now is going to help the Biden campaign because it's those suburban voters that just love violent rioting.

Alright this sounds like a ton of information that I hadn't heard about until this point, is there anyway you'd be able to source all of this information? Not a dig at you or anything, though P&S does run RAMPANT with bullshit news because people just like to spew off garbage.

IMO opinion this is a ton of garbage to just make up on the spot regarding the drugs and such, though sourcing it would just confirm that all is well here and that a reputable source backs this info.

Regarding the whole shooting back and such, yeah I think a LOT of people forget about the fact that a police officer was shot and due to that they returned fire as they thought they were in danger. Not surprising that they are going to get off on the charges. Even for the one that was indicted I HIGHLY doubt he is going to even face one day in jail.

I've seen a ton of people complaining about how her estate won in a civil suit against the city though she lost the criminal case. Well yeah -- Civil cases only require a simple majority of proof while criminal cases need BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT -- which is pretty much saying 100%.

[Gyfts]

The Breonna Taylor case is interesting and it's complex and I would really wish people did their research into what actually happened in the shooting.


What the facts actually are:

Breonna Taylor was under suspicion by LMPD due to being complicit in alleged drug trade between a friend of hers named Jamarcus Glover, whom a family lawyer claims she had a "passive" relationship with. This began all the way in 2016 when a dead body was found in Breonna Taylor's rental car. The body of this person was the brother of someone that was associated with Glover. Taylor, neither Glover were charged for this murder.

Fast forward to January 2020. Glover was under surveillance by the LMPD which had planted a GPS tracker on his car. It was observed 6 times that he had visited Breonna Taylor's residence, combined with over 27 phone records of outgoing calls by Glover to Taylor when he was in prison previously over a period spanning from 2016 to 2020. Given these connections, LMPD had reason to believe there coordination between Glover and Breonna Taylor. The residence was placed under camera surveillance and through a camera on a telephone pole, they observed Glover transport a suspicious USPS package from the Breonna Taylor residence and take it to a drug house location that was determined to commonly be used for drug transactions. From this, LMPD believe there was drug activity going on at the Taylor residence.

On January 3rd, Glover had made a phone call to Breonna Taylor after he got arrested for charges that're a mile long, and asked Taylor to get bail money from someone who was a co-defendant on the same charges that Glover faced -- Breonna Taylor told Glover that this person was "at the Trap" aka a drug house, and during this phone call, both Glover and Taylor said they loved each other. What does this mean? This means Taylor presumably knew about a potential drug house, and that the relationship between Glover and Taylor was not merely "passive". She clearly had to have known Glover was deeply involved in drug trades prior to his arrest.

Now fast forward to March 13th, when Taylor died. Glover was arrested on the same day at another drug house and made outgoing calls which imo, verify that he and Breonna Taylor were complicit in drug trades. Glover claimed to his current girlfriend during a recorded prison call that Taylor was the one that handled his money and that Taylor had 8000 dollars of his when she died that he could not locate and that she had also "picked up another six" thousand dollars that were no where to be found. In this call, Glover expressed confusion as to why the police would raid Taylor's home citing that the fact there weren't many connections him and Taylor, to which point the person he was talking to claimed they had connections through the dead body found in the rental car, bail bonds, ect.  With all this considered, the warrant had Taylor, Glover, and another associate of Glover's name on it, the address was correct, and by all the public information, the warrant was legitimate. Police had executed the warrant, and according to the KY Attorney General, the police knocked and announced themselves. While trying to break down the door, the the boyfriend of Taylor at the time (Kenneth Walker) shot a "warning shot" (according to him) and ended up shooting a Sgt. in the leg. The police returned fire, and Taylor got caught up in the crossfire.

It's a tragic situation, but the amount of misinformation that's been spread is palpable. The police were justified to return fire after serving a legal and legitimate warrant, but people are still peddling propaganda like "Taylor was not on the warrant", "Wrong house", "she was asleep", ect. Under no circumstances were any of these officers going to be charged with murder, yet for some reason, these people are out rioting as if it was a miscarriage of justice.  And then what happens? You have police officers shot in fits of rage by people thinking that the officers involved in Taylor's death got off. A grand jury chose not to indict, what more do people want?

Kamala Harris claimed the Taylor family deserved justice, so I'm glad she's able to turn down the temperature when it matters. Just wonderful stuff. I'm sure the rioting that's going on in Louisville right now is going to help the Biden campaign because it's those suburban voters that just love violent rioting.

Alright this sounds like a ton of information that I hadn't heard about until this point, is there anyway you'd be able to source all of this information? Not a dig at you or anything, though P&S does run RAMPANT with bullshit news because people just like to spew off garbage.

IMO opinion this is a ton of garbage to just make up on the spot regarding the drugs and such, though sourcing it would just confirm that all is well here and that a reputable source backs this info.

Regarding the whole shooting back and such, yeah I think a LOT of people forget about the fact that a police officer was shot and due to that they returned fire as they thought they were in danger. Not surprising that they are going to get off on the charges. Even for the one that was indicted I HIGHLY doubt he is going to even face one day in jail.

I've seen a ton of people complaining about how her estate won in a civil suit against the city though she lost the criminal case. Well yeah -- Civil cases only require a simple majority of proof while criminal cases need BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT -- which is pretty much saying 100%.

http://juryverdicts.net/LMPDBreonnaTaylorReport.pdf

The LMPD hasn't released the full report, nor would they. A lot of this info is private and stays at the department.

Her civil suit was something like 12 million dollars which was the highest paid to a black woman ever iirc. Not saying she didn't deserve it, because she should not have died obviously, but public pressure definitely weighed in on the payout.

[coins4commies]

Its a great display of how the whole system is racist and tilted towards the cops, even if the cops themselves aren't individually racist.  In this case, I'd say the cops were just overaggressive which caused a misunderstanding ending in Taylor's death.  The police department did the most they could to shield the murderous cops but because they were blue which had nothing to with black or white.  The racist justice system took over from there and ultimately declared that her life had no value. Would not have happened had she been white.

Taylor's boyfriend had a right to defend himself against a home invasion.   The cops did not have a right to enter.  That should have been enough to get him off even if he killed all of the cops. but somehow the racist grand jury members think him shooting means the cops had a free pass to go and murder a different person in the home.  

Cops in the US definitely have a "you fuck with me, I'll make you suffer" attitude and are always looking for blood if they get ran from, disrespected, or assaulted. 

[Gyfts]

Its a great display of how the whole system is racist and tilted towards the cops, even if the cops themselves aren't individually racist.  In this case, I'd say the cops were just overaggressive which caused a misundestanding ending in Taylor's death.  The police department did the most they could to shield the murderous cops but because they were blue which had nothing to with black or white.  The racist justice system took over from there and ultimately declared that her life had no value.

Taylor's boyfriend had a right to defend himself against a home invasion.   The cops did not have a right to enter.  That should have been enough to get him off even if he killed all of the cops. but somehow the racist grand jury members think him shooting means the cops had a free pass to go and murder a different person in the home. 

A home invasion is not police serving a legal warrant with the resident's name on the warrant, where police knock and announce themselves. What law was racist here? How were the cops over aggressive? The bone head, Kenneth Walker, is the reason why Taylor is dead because he fired a "warning shot", something responsible gun owners never do. This warning shot nearly killed a Sargent after he was struck near the femoral artery.

Police did not fire first. You have no authority to stop police from serving a legal warrant.

[Spendulus]

Its a great display of how the whole system is racist and tilted towards the cops, even if the cops themselves aren't individually racist.  In this case, I'd say the cops were just overaggressive which caused a misunderstanding ending in Taylor's death.  The police department did the most they could to shield the murderous cops but because they were blue which had nothing to with black or white.  The racist justice system took over from there and ultimately declared that her life had no value. Would not have happened had she been white.

Taylor's boyfriend had a right to defend himself against a home invasion.   The cops did not have a right to enter.  That should have been enough to get him off even if he killed all of the cops. but somehow the racist grand jury members think him shooting means the cops had a free pass to go and murder a different person in the home.  

Cops in the US definitely have a "you fuck with me, I'll make you suffer" attitude and are always looking for blood if they get ran from, disrespected, or assaulted. 

If the facts are correct this was NOT A NO-KNOCK RAID, it was a totally legitimate presentation of a warrant at a door. I'm opposed to no knock raids and think they've caused needless deaths for little gain. Now, where was the home invasion here?