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September 20, 2020, 03:54:42 AM
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And finally, about my topics. I have never claimed authorship, my goal on the forum is to learn something from others myself, and what I find on the Internet is what I share.
I do think you can improve upon this:
The date of writing the Russian article, which I have indicated in the sources: 29.07.2020
I think you can/should improve on the way you use references. First: "on the internet", plagiarism and copyright violations are widely used and often more or less accepted. Bitcointalk is the only forum I know that bans users for plagiarism.
In the academic world, plagiarism is probably the worst sin you can commit: everything you use from someone else should get a reference. Even then, you should only copy something verbatim if it's said in such a way that you can't do it justice by changing the wording, and if you do quote someone, you should use "quotation marks" together with the reference.
Bitcointalk is a bit weird in this respect, and falls in between "the rest of the internet" where nobody cares about anything, and academics, which is very strict on plagiarism. If you copy an entire article and just post a link below it, it's totally fine on Bitcointalk! I don't think this is right though, and apart from plagiarism it could also be considered a copyright violation. It's often used for advertising or just to increase post count. I think there should be a forum rule against "link dumps" like this.
The proper way to show an external article would be by giving a short summary, or quoting a short relevant part, followed by a link for further reading. But I don't think there's much much discussion value if you create a new topic solely for an article on another website. I probably wouldn't do it myself.

If you use several different articles as reference (by copying text directly, by translating text or by paraphrasing), I think you should add a reference to each part. If you use a source many times, you can use for instance super script numbers ("[1]") (like Wikipedia).
If you create a very long topic, but only show the sources after clicking Page Down 21 times, it looks like you wrote it by yourself until I finish reading. If you copy data from other websites, it should be obvious to the reader that you did this. If someone stops reading before reaching the end, he'll never see your sources.

Let me put it this way: if you (or anyone else) would use my text in such a way, it wouldn't feel like you do justice to the effort I put in.
If you improve on your referencing, you'll also avoid giving anyone an excuse to create topics like this.

Just to add my 2cents, if some copy paste the articles from other sources and put the source at the beginning of the thread will this not count under plagiarism ?
As far as i know anything which is copied from external sources (not translated only word to word copy) should be put in a quote, am i right about this  Huh

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September 20, 2020, 08:24:38 AM
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Just to add my 2cents, if some copy paste the articles from other sources and put the source at the beginning of the thread will this not count under plagiarism ?
That makes it more obvious it's not your own text, but it's really up to the Mods.

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As far as i know anything which is copied from external sources (not translated only word to word copy) should be put in a quote, am i right about this  Huh
That's what I would do, or you can use quotes. Example: Satoshi said: "Banks .... lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve". It's obvious this is a quote, but less disruptive than putting this short text inside quote tags.

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September 21, 2020, 04:14:51 AM
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Stop protecting plagiarists. OP is victim of plagiator.
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September 24, 2020, 08:34:03 PM
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hat's what I would do, or you can use quotes. Example: Satoshi said (https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/quotes/banks/): "Banks .... lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve". It's obvious this is a quote, but less disruptive than putting this short text inside quote tags.

Another copypaste topic made by Ratimov, without doing what you suggested. He really thinks that he is some content creator while in reality he just copies english articles and use google translate for russian articles and then he just copies that into his topic without properly referncing it.I cant believe that this is allowed here and no one cares just because he is dt member. If it was some newbie who makes 3 copypaste topics each day someone would report him and topics would be deleted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278007.msg55257199#msg55257199
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September 24, 2020, 10:20:18 PM
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hat's what I would do, or you can use quotes. Example: Satoshi said (https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/quotes/banks/): "Banks .... lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve". It's obvious this is a quote, but less disruptive than putting this short text inside quote tags.

Another copypaste topic made by Ratimov, without doing what you suggested. He really thinks that he is some content creator while in reality he just copies english articles and use google translate for russian articles and then he just copies that into his topic without properly referncing it.I cant believe that this is allowed here and no one cares just because he is dt member. If it was some newbie who makes 3 copypaste topics each day someone would report him and topics would be deleted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278007.msg55257199#msg55257199

I don't know why you are so bitter about this, maybe there is some feud going on between you and him. You already have a report to moderator button so what are you waiting for? Instead of complaining here every now and then why not just report the posts.

I don't see anything negative about the posts  Sad All Ratimov did was try to compile all information from different sources into one informative post and also included links from the sources. Since when was that not accepted here?

I see people always translate different informative English threads into local language threads and it has never been an issue so why are try to say Ratimov should be punished for this

Stop making hatred cloud your judgement.

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September 25, 2020, 09:50:10 PM
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Stop making hatred cloud your judgement.
I think that everyone has the right to express their point of view here. Stop restricting freedom of speech of OP

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