Thoughts on Trump's UN speech?

[roberthays]

If anyone missed it, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAy1nC9BJA0

Do you agree that the world should hold China accountable? Or, is his speech a little too harsh?

[Smartvirus]

By holding China responsible, what is going to be expected of China because, it could be that they discovered it first and accidentally provided the media for it's transfer.
For a fact, they tried in there little way to control the infection but, humans could be so keen on doing certain things and by that seem insubordinate to rules. If it were easy, the world would have found a way to arrest the situation but, it is what it is and we've got to live with it.

[franky1]

the CDC said if was spreadable in january........ but trump did nothing until march.....
trump loses argument

as for other blames towards china
china shut down its border promptly and grounded its planes in january. made hospitals by february

trump had to make an order HIMSELF to organise repatriation flights to get americans out of china because china wasnt sending them(china were trying to keep it from spreading)
trump however also did not then do any self isolation or track and trace on those repatriates when they got to america.
trump also didnt do anything precautionary until march..

so while people try to spread myths about it being a man made plan to release a virus into a wetmarket(sorry it wasnt) but while idiots try to push that myth. the facts that china closed borders and stopped the spread at their end. and trump override that precaution.. is all on trump.. not china

the reason UK government is not pushing the blame china game is because UK government realise their mistakes of doing repatriation flights

it would have been far cheaper to just give 50,000 americans an extended vacation in china. fully paid. than to have just brought them back to america and set them free to spread it

[Juggy777]

the CDC said if was spreadable in january........ but trump did nothing until march.....
trump loses argument

as for other blames towards china
china shut down its border promptly and grounded its planes in january. made hospitals by february

trump had to make an order HIMSELF to organise repatriation flights to get americans out of china because china wasnt sending them(china were trying to keep it from spreading)
trump however also did not then do any self isolation or track and trace on those repatriates when they got to america.
trump also didnt do anything precautionary until march..

so while people try to spread myths about it being a man made plan to release a virus into a wetmarket(sorry it wasnt) but while idiots try to push that myth. the facts that china closed borders and stopped the spread at their end. and trump override that precaution.. is all on trump.. not china

the reason UK government is not pushing the blame china game is because UK government realise their mistakes of doing repatriation flights

it would have been far cheaper to just give 50,000 americans an extended vacation in china. fully paid. than to have just brought them back to america and set them free to spread it

@franky1 your arguments make sense because most of the country’s have refused to call it Chinese virus, and most if not all country’s are guilty of bringing their people back and letting them roam free in January or February end. Also Trump knowns that if he stops putting blame on China, then the blame will automatically shift on his ineffectiveness to deal with the virus, hence I don’t expect him to stop targeting China over this virus anytime soon.

Sources:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/trump-unable-to-escape-virus-fallout-as-his-own-words-haunt-him

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/analysis-whats-behind-trumps-china-attacks/article31502183.ece

[franky1]

other stupid stuf is blaming china for the manufacturing shift from US to china
sorry but american business owners choose to move their production to china because american business owners are not getting a good deal within the US

trumps other stupidity is that he has raised alot from chinese tarrifs.
the problem is.. if anyone has ever bought anything from china. we buy it cheap from china. but.. heres the thing WE then end up payig the 'customs tax' just to receive the goods.
meaning trump/UK gov(my case) are penalising our own citizens. not the chinese

but even with that said. i had to buy a bitcoin miner and had to pay the customs. but its still cheaper than any hope of an american company offering a bitcoin miner.
i also had to get a HD LED protector lamp. again still cheaper to get from china even after paying fee's
i paid my postoffice that put that money into my countries treasury..
china didnt not pay any money into the treasury. i did.

just think about this point also
a hours wage or a loaf of bread in china seems low when giving it a $ value. purely and solely because the US dont want to show china as having a bigger economy than the US
so america have to live with the fact to hide that america is not a super power like they pretend. they have to accept the consequence of people benefiting from the exchange rate as the consequence to their number games of pretending america is mightier

if trump actually done something. like actually value china like-for-like using hours labour and loaves of bread being valued at american prices instead of 10x less. then by sorting the exchange rate to be equal. they can actually make businesses want to stay in america because there is no benefit of moving manufacturing to china

[akram143]

If anyone missed it, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAy1nC9BJA0

Do you agree that the world should hold China accountable? Or, is his speech a little too harsh?

Even though that speech was little bit harsh there is no denial on those statements he mentioned, China locked themselves but allowed people to fly other countries and WHO also helped with the spread of virus in the initial stage by just agreeing the words of China and give it as guideline to all the other countries.

[franky1]

If anyone missed it, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAy1nC9BJA0

Do you agree that the world should hold China accountable? Or, is his speech a little too harsh?

Even though that speech was little bit harsh there is no denial on those statements he mentioned, China locked themselves but allowed people to fly other countries and WHO also helped with the spread of virus in the initial stage by just agreeing the words of China and give it as guideline to all the other countries.

um.. no
china reacted the very week they had their first patient with a odd symptomology.
china informed WHO the day china knew what the cause was.
because there were only a few cause in december and they didnt know the cause yet or if it was just a local poisoning they didnt want to raise an international alarm. but as soon as they knew it would be a spreadable thing WHO was told. and WHO then told everyone else
remember even on january 5th there had not been a single death yet. so sharing a warning before anyone actually died. is actually very reactive and fast response

yet in feb-march-april america demanded its people to be taken out of china and other places and brought back to america.

australia done a good job because on february1st australia banned any foreigners from entering australia.
but UK/US were still letting them in

china were not sending out their people on chinese planes. instead it was US/UK flights letting anyone one that bought a ticket
it was only in march that US/UK then dedicated the fights for only US/UK citizens.

this is why australia coped better than us/uk

[roberthays]

the CDC said if was spreadable in january........ but trump did nothing until march.....
trump loses argument

as for other blames towards china
china shut down its border promptly and grounded its planes in january. made hospitals by february

trump had to make an order HIMSELF to organise repatriation flights to get americans out of china because china wasnt sending them(china were trying to keep it from spreading)
trump however also did not then do any self isolation or track and trace on those repatriates when they got to america.
trump also didnt do anything precautionary until march..

so while people try to spread myths about it being a man made plan to release a virus into a wetmarket(sorry it wasnt) but while idiots try to push that myth. the facts that china closed borders and stopped the spread at their end. and trump override that precaution.. is all on trump.. not china

the reason UK government is not pushing the blame china game is because UK government realise their mistakes of doing repatriation flights

it would have been far cheaper to just give 50,000 americans an extended vacation in china. fully paid. than to have just brought them back to america and set them free to spread it

@franky1 your arguments make sense because most of the country’s have refused to call it Chinese virus, and most if not all country’s are guilty of bringing their people back and letting them roam free in January or February end. Also Trump knowns that if he stops putting blame on China, then the blame will automatically shift on his ineffectiveness to deal with the virus, hence I don’t expect him to stop targeting China over this virus anytime soon.

Sources:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/trump-unable-to-escape-virus-fallout-as-his-own-words-haunt-him

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/analysis-whats-behind-trumps-china-attacks/article31502183.ece

I agree with you there, seems like this is a political stance and particularly with the elections approaching. Yet, to some degree he does have a point in that China did not alert the world sooner.

[akram143]

If anyone missed it, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAy1nC9BJA0

Do you agree that the world should hold China accountable? Or, is his speech a little too harsh?

Even though that speech was little bit harsh there is no denial on those statements he mentioned, China locked themselves but allowed people to fly other countries and WHO also helped with the spread of virus in the initial stage by just agreeing the words of China and give it as guideline to all the other countries.

um.. no
china reacted the very week they had their first patient with a odd symptomology.
china informed WHO the day china knew what the cause was.
because there were only a few cause in december and they didnt know the cause yet or if it was just a local poisoning they didnt want to raise an international alarm. but as soon as they knew it would be a spreadable thing WHO was told. and WHO then told everyone else
remember even on january 5th there had not been a single death yet. so sharing a warning before anyone actually died. is actually very reactive and fast response

yet in feb-march-april america demanded its people to be taken out of china and other places and brought back to america.

australia done a good job because on february1st australia banned any foreigners from entering australia.
but UK/US were still letting them in

china were not sending out their people on chinese planes. instead it was US/UK flights letting anyone one that bought a ticket
it was only in march that US/UK then dedicated the fights for only US/UK citizens.

this is why australia coped better than us/uk

27th December 2019, doctors confirms that they are hit by a mystery virus from the sars family and they warned all other healthcare workers to wear protective equipments to avoid getting infected but what Chinese government did? They detained all the people for the cause of spreading the rumour and let their political party related meetings with no worries.

[Salauddin1994]

In his address to the un general assembly president trump criticized all allies and opponents of the united states for their extreme nationalist stancei In particular he made strong statements aimed at iran and china in the eyes of us president donald trump the only important thing for him is to protect us interests inside or outside the country. As the most militarily and economically powerful country the united states wants other countries to be loyal to washington and others will be forced to accept what america says and wants. in that case australia will listen to their session.