Athiest are the ultimate free thinker?

[Gyfts]

religious radicals and athiest radicals use others as the blame/exception to allow them to do radical acts.

athiests blame their wife,government, employer, skin colour gender
religious blame sins, god,bible

i dont mind people being religious. as long as they dont quote/use their religion as an excuse to upset,distress,harm, kill others

same with athiest conspiracy people. carry on blaming others in your mind. but dont use it as your excuse to harm/distress others

What is an atheist radicals? How often do we have radical acts of atheism? If there ever was a "neutral dogma", atheism would be it. I can't think of any major mass murder attacks done in the name of atheism. Usually it's radical Islamists or Christians that would conduct terror attacks.

My biggest gripe with atheists is some of them come across as arrogant ass holes with a superiority complex. They'll be dicks to religious folks because they make the claim that they're on the side of science while religious people believe in some fairy above the skies. But words aren't violence.

[tvbcof]

What is an atheist radicals? How often do we have radical acts of atheism? If there ever was a "neutral dogma", atheism would be it. I can't think of any major mass murder attacks done in the name of atheism. Usually it's radical Islamists or Christians that would conduct terror attacks.
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Oh, I dunno; Stalin? Mao? Pot?  These people were basically technocrats who had a goal to engineer society to a more manageable state.  And they were working from a platform of avowed atheism.  Technocratic efficiency derives much of it's marketing material from the absence of an alternate and/or superior religious authority.  These people were 'free to think up' all kinds of ways to achieve their goals.

As a counter-argument, there is some argument backed up by some evidence that some of the people working under the aformentioned platform were Lucifarian / Kabbalists / Satanists to a degree.  As was the philosophical god-father, Marx.  In such a case it would be unfair to call them 'Athiests' although they jealously proclaimed that label of themselves.  They would be more crypto-{foo}s than actual Athiests.  Suffice it to say, they were certainly not Christians.

[coolcoinz]

My biggest gripe with atheists is some of them come across as arrogant ass holes with a superiority complex. They'll be dicks to religious folks because they make the claim that they're on the side of science while religious people believe in some fairy above the skies. But words aren't violence.

This is the exact reason why I try to stay away from religious freaks. Some of them can be such annoying dicks to atheists or even people with a bit different understanding of the same religion. They think that only their interpretation is the right one and if you don't agree you're a subject in need of conversion. A great example of such dicks are jehovah's witnesses.

[Daras]

All humans are programmed to believe in something, either to believe in God existence or whatever,this is important for a balance ecosystem and co-existing between human race but the most important thing is to use this to compliment each other in a place where one belief is deficient and lacking good virtue.

[Lorence.xD]

In order to deny God, you first have to define God. Thus I believe that the real free thinkers are the agnostics.

It does not matter whether you are theist, atheist or agnostic. Anyone can think freely, this titles associated with being a free thinker is a bullshit made by someone who has a superiority complex and thinks that they are the smartest man in the universe by being a self proclaimed atheist. Free thinkers do not advertise their side when it comes to faith, I think having faith at the very least helps you in understanding more and broaden you perspective in things.

[Zilon]

Religion is a thing of choice so is there freedom of worship. Although there is no true religion without charity, love and faith. I irrespective of this every man is entitled to his or her own way of worship. I wouldn't be surprised of I find out at the later end that we all served the same creator through different means neither will be shocked 2 see even an atheist in heaven even when he believes nothing of such exist. because God is a spirit and His worshippers worship also in spirit. But irrespective of your believe system let the love of mankind guide your concience

[BADecker]

^^^ But what if your way of worship says that you should kill off everybody who has a different way of worship? Does that mean that others can worship their own way, and die in their worship, killed by you, whose worship way says you should kill off those who don't worship as you do?

Let the atheists worship their god - themselves. God will judge them appropriately at the time of judgment of all people. You just be sure that you maintain God in your worship.

[franky1]

religious radicals and athiest radicals use others as the blame/exception to allow them to do radical acts.

athiests blame their wife,government, employer, skin colour gender
religious blame sins, god,bible

i dont mind people being religious. as long as they dont quote/use their religion as an excuse to upset,distress,harm, kill others

same with athiest conspiracy people. carry on blaming others in your mind. but dont use it as your excuse to harm/distress others

What is an atheist radicals? How often do we have radical acts of atheism? If there ever was a "neutral dogma", atheism would be it. I can't think of any major mass murder attacks done in the name of atheism. Usually it's radical Islamists or Christians that would conduct terror attacks.

school shootings where the crazy kid done it as a dare he read on the internet.
american gun lovers that shoot due to loving their government/constitution
there are many examples of radicals that are not quoting god as their inspiration.
trump supporters in general, that quote the constitution more often then change their underwear

islamists and christians are not being told by the quran or bible to kill invaders.. its actually the invaders that these nutjobs feel threatened by. and so look to another source whether its bible or quran for their guilt free exemption. usually in the form of having their sins clensed or forgiven or offered a great afterlife

yep athiests look to their constitution for their guilt free pass. thinking it immortalises them as a high ranking defender of their homeland. thus thinking they get some symbolic reward/promotion for being crazy

[Mauser]

Religion is a thing of choice so is there freedom of worship. Although there is no true religion without charity, love and faith. I irrespective of this every man is entitled to his or her own way of worship. I wouldn't be surprised of I find out at the later end that we all served the same creator through different means neither will be shocked 2 see even an atheist in heaven even when he believes nothing of such exist. because God is a spirit and His worshippers worship also in spirit. But irrespective of your believe system let the love of mankind guide your concience

Atheists in heaven sounds funny, not sure if the Atheists even want to go there. I think that the advancements we made in physics in the last 150 years makes it harder for an well educated person to be very religious. Most people acknowledge the positive impact religion can have on a persons life as it gives meaning to life and help with the understanding of forces beyond our control. The real problem is if religion is being abused my fanatics to do harm to other people. I wish being kind to other people would be at the heart  of all religions.

[Dorodha]

In the case of religion those who follow their religion every time we talk about religion someone is involved in an argument. Then it seems that we have escaped from the discussion no one wants to accept another's ideas or beliefs about religion and irreligion. Everyone thinks that what he knows about religion and irreligion is the last word there can be no more knowledge or words beyond his knowledge. A man is attacked without hearing why he has chosen religion it seems that the anti-religious people want to expel religion person with various examples.

[BADecker]

^^^ There aren't any anti-religious people. If a person is anti-religious, then anti-religion is his religion.

[tvbcof]

^^^ But what if your way of worship says that you should kill off everybody who has a different way of worship? Does that mean that others can worship their own way, and die in their worship, killed by you, whose worship way says you should kill off those who don't worship as you do?

Let the atheists worship their god - themselves. God will judge them appropriately at the time of judgment of all people. You just be sure that you maintain God in your worship.

As an Athiest I suspect that most of them will skate through life enjoying the fruits of their own machinations and end up worm-dirt like everyone else.  Most people will not be remembered at all so a 'legacy' of good or bad isn't even a factor.

The idea of Final Judgement, while it may be comforting, is mostly just a cop-out which induces people to NOT take action against those who are creating havoc using their circular self-God reasoning as an inspiration and as an excuse.  And yes, 'self-worship' is a thing, and a thing often mistaken for Athiesm.  Judgement will come upon these people by the hand of decent people if it comes at all.

The Achilles's heal of the Kissinger types is that a large majority of people are basically decent and would fight back if they understood the magnitude of the criminality.  The defense they use is by keeping people in the dark through a number of means, and organized religion is one of the big ones.

[akram143]

Anyone who believes the science and logic not the spiritual things are atheist but we couldn't say they are always free thinkers, still they can be manipulated with fake proofs. No matter of you follow any religion or no religion just learn to respect others as same as you.

[BADecker]

^^^ But what if your way of worship says that you should kill off everybody who has a different way of worship? Does that mean that others can worship their own way, and die in their worship, killed by you, whose worship way says you should kill off those who don't worship as you do?

Let the atheists worship their god - themselves. God will judge them appropriately at the time of judgment of all people. You just be sure that you maintain God in your worship.

As an Athiest I suspect that most of them will skate through life enjoying the fruits of their own machinations and end up worm-dirt like everyone else.  Most people will not be remembered at all so a 'legacy' of good or bad isn't even a factor.

The idea of Final Judgement, while it may be comforting, is mostly just a cop-out which induces people to NOT take action against those who are creating havoc using their circular self-God reasoning as an inspiration and as an excuse.  And yes, 'self-worship' is a thing, and a thing often mistaken for Athiesm.  Judgement will come upon these people by the hand of decent people if it comes at all.

The Achilles's heal of the Kissinger types is that a large majority of people are basically decent and would fight back if they understood the magnitude of the criminality.  The defense they use is by keeping people in the dark through a number of means, and organized religion is one of the big ones.

We of this age are so blessed. We have science to show us beyond a shadow of a doubt that the complexity of the universe is far beyond us. Yet it all acts by cause and effect, just like machines and machinery that we make.

Whatever the Cause of the universe, It is far different than the universe. We see nothing in the universe making itself. The cases where it seems like something makes itself, it is only great complexity making it look this way. Really, there is "programming" that has been placed into the thing to make it look like it is making itself. Science is teaching our age about this more than any other age of the world that we know of.

In other words, we don't know why life exists, or how it could exist. Because we don't know, we also don't know that it won't happen again. The machinery of  the universe and life is so greatly complex, that we can't see the beginning or the end. But the complexity shows us God, because machines have makers.

If we want to know the reality of things, we need to seek God and His answers.

[Mpamaegbu]

Atheists may enjoy the "Free thinker" tag now and bask in it until they realize that their thoughts aren't spot on. While I do believe that people have  rights to opinions but the opinions should be well informed, and not to deceive or hoodwink. One don't just wake up one morning and loud it that there isn't God because one hasn't been able to discover oneself. Phew! People have to realize that the cosmic is ruled from the spiritual. Anything that happens in the physical happens first in the spiritual realm before manifestation. Just think about this. Atheist, just think about this.

[Fortify]

I would say that agnostics are the ultimate free thinker, rather than atheists. Atheists have closed off their mind to the though that a God does or did ever exist. Somebody that does not factor in the possibility of a higher power has closed off a part of their mind - you really need to think of everything and however slim the chances may be, the existence of the afterlife may be true and nothing you will ever be able to confirm until you die.

[tvbcof]

I would say that agnostics are the ultimate free thinker, rather than atheists. Atheists have closed off their mind to the though that a God does or did ever exist. Somebody that does not factor in the possibility of a higher power has closed off a part of their mind - you really need to think of everything and however slim the chances may be, the existence of the afterlife may be true and nothing you will ever be able to confirm until you die.

That is not completely true as I define Atheism (which I consider myself to be.)  To me 'Agnostic' means you don't really know or care.  I do care.  If there is a God and his son Jesus and a Heaven and Hell, and if I have to maintain a certain belief structure in order not to be burning in Hell for eternity, ya, it would be something I care about.

I don't like the term 'agnostic' since it strikes me as a wishy-washy position to take and a 'go along to get along' type of an attitude.  I just don't have any real respect for such people.  I call myself an Atheist because every organized religious and spiritual belief system I'm aware of seems like a random shot-in-the-dark.  None are more compelling than any other in terms of believability, and all are relatively easily explained by a normal human psychological wiring regarding needs for a solid base, residual parental figure feelings, and the like.  In short, they are all so unbelievable in my mode of assessing reality that I cannot even go so far as to be 'agnostic' about them.

Now it must be said that at this point in my life I do have a great deal of admiration and respect for many of the practitioners of various religions including the one most familiar to me as someone who grew up in what was at the time a 'Christian' nation.  Conversely, as I learn more about others, I have an increasing amount of utter disgust.  Specifically Talmudic Judaism.  It's truly a gutter religion which fosters the very worst aspects of human nature.  Unfortunately some of these attributes do work well as a means of achieving power, especially when practiced in secret.